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Old 01-25-08, 04:58 PM
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Would someone please define "Independent Voter"?

Every other post I read..."appealing to the independents"..."he/she needs the independent vote."

What exactly does and Independent Voter "believe"?
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Old 01-25-08, 05:03 PM
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In my opinion it is a voter who doesn't tend to feel strongly enough in either of the major 2 parties but prefers something in-between.
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Old 01-25-08, 05:28 PM
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Often it's a voter who lies and says he/she is an independent voter. When, in reality, they almost always support either one party or the other.
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People that have already made up their mind but want to appear as if they weigh the candidate over the party.

I'm registered independent.
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Old 01-25-08, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman2
Often it's a voter who lies and says he/she is an independent voter.
Now, now... "lies" is such a strong word.
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Old 01-25-08, 05:32 PM
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I didn't want to bother thinking about another word.
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Old 01-25-08, 06:37 PM
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Technically, everyone in Virginia is an independent voter. There is no party registration, so each primary election, you can just walk up and vote in either one.
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Old 01-25-08, 06:48 PM
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Independent Voter: A person who doesn't use the pretty picture next to a candidate's name to figure out who to vote for.
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Old 01-25-08, 07:05 PM
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People who usually end up voting against someone than for someone.
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Old 01-26-08, 06:55 AM
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I think most truly independent voters are women.

That's neither a derogatory or complimentary comment about the fairer sex. It's just my opinion.
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Old 01-26-08, 10:24 AM
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MUGWUMP, n.
In politics one afflicted with self-respect and addicted to the vice of independence. A term of contempt.
-Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

When I lived in New Hampshire, being Independant meant that I could tell telephone pollsters to get stuffed.
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Old 01-26-08, 11:22 AM
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Someone too stupid to figure out their own principles and views.
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Old 01-26-08, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sracer
Independent Voter: A person who doesn't use the pretty picture next to a candidate's name to figure out who to vote for.
They just use the candidate's picture.
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Old 01-27-08, 01:23 AM
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An independent voter in the US is somebody who's smart enough to realize that not all politics fits neatly into just two parties.
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Old 01-27-08, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by murphy_wmm
An independent voter in the US is somebody who's smart enough to realize that not all politics fits neatly into just two parties.
I thought you'll had more than 2 parties in Canada.
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Old 01-27-08, 08:24 AM
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An independent voter doesn't have a real ideology, and usually votes more on a candidate they like, or they are driven by the issue of the day. Alot of independents who voted for Reagan twice, and then Bush in 88, voted for either Clinton or Perot in 1992 cause of the Economy. I believe 35% of the country will almost always vote for a republican, 35% will almost always vote for a demcrat, and the other 30% are independents who have no allegiance to the party. That is why even on down years, George Bush Sr. still got 38% in 1992, and George McGovern got 39% in 1972, those are the base of the party.
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Old 01-27-08, 09:13 AM
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Some analysts believe that there are only 10% or so of the voters who are actually (really) independent.
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Old 01-28-08, 01:27 AM
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Can't the 10% figure be verified via the voter registration records? Or are those analysts saying that many of those who register as "unaffiliated/undeclared/independent" are lying about their true allegiance?
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Old 01-28-08, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by coli
An independent voter doesn't have a real ideology, and usually votes more on a candidate they like, or they are driven by the issue of the day.
Uh, no. I'm independent and have a very strong ideology. Let's not confuse a lack of partisanship with a lack of principles.
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Old 01-28-08, 06:19 AM
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Uh, no. I'm independent and have a very strong ideology. Let's not confuse a lack of partisanship with a lack of principles.
I didn't mean that in a negative way. I am just saying that an independent voter isn't steadfast about a certain issue that will define their voting. For instance, many prolife people can never vote for a democrat simply on that one issue for the supreme court, and vice versa. You may be prolife or prochoice, but I guarantee you are not a one issue oriented voter on a issue like that or you would always vote one way.
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Originally Posted by jonnyquest
Can't the 10% figure be verified via the voter registration records? Or are those analysts saying that many of those who register as "unaffiliated/undeclared/independent" are lying about their true allegiance?
Many states don't require party registration.

You don't have to be lying. People may truly consider themselves to be independents when they vote time & time again for one party or the other. Just as there is a plethora of folks who call themselves Democrats in the South who haven't voted for a Democrat in 30 years.
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Old 01-28-08, 10:12 AM
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I used to vote Libertarian. Now I vote for the major party candidates who seem to be most closely approaching the libertarian ideals. Sometimes it's a candidate from the party which claims to favor economic freedoms. Sometimes it's a candidate from the party which claims to favor social freedoms.

Does that make me unable to figure out my own principals and views? On the contrary! No one is ever going to call me a dittohead.

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Old 01-28-08, 10:17 AM
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It would be interesting if we removed all candidate names and party affiliations from the ballots. Instead, just list their positions on the issues. I think the results would be very different.

While that's a pipe dream, a more realistic thing I'd like to see is the removal of the "everybody in this party" voting option.
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Old 01-28-08, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
While that's a pipe dream, a more realistic thing I'd like to see is the removal of the "everybody in this party" voting option.

The fact that such an option is available on some state ballots simply astounds me. I guess whatever makes it easier for the carbon blobs.
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Old 01-28-08, 11:07 AM
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There is seriously an option for that in some states?

Might as well just let someone have a lifetime subscription to the (R) or (D) ballot so they don't have to show up year after year?
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