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The New Menace - Cribbage-Playing WWII Vets

Old 11-08-07, 01:02 PM
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The New Menace - Cribbage-Playing WWII Vets

I hope you don't play cribbage at your local VFW, c-man. You could be next.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...38/detail.html

Police Crack Down On WWII Vets' Cribbage Games
State Inspector Says Games Illegal

POSTED: 1:54 pm EST November 6, 2007
UPDATED: 2:04 pm EST November 6, 2007

GARDINER, Maine -- A weekly cribbage tournament at an American Legion post has been shut down after a state inspector said the games were illegal because the post didn't have a license to host games of chance.

Bill Meserve, an 87-year-old World War II veteran, said paying the $5 entry fee on Sundays was an inexpensive way to have fun on a fixed income. He can't understand why anyone would tell a bunch of old veterans they can't play a simple game of cribbage.

"We're just having fun. Where else can you go and spend three hours having fun for five dollars," he said. "You can't go to the movies for five dollars."

A number of inspectors regularly visit establishments to check for unlicensed games such as games of chance, card games or money wheels, said Maine State Police Sgt. William Gomane.

The American Legion needs a license to hold cribbage tournaments because it sells things to players, such as food and alcohol, he said. A license for games of chance costs $15 a week or $60 or month, while a yearly license goes for $700, he said.

The American Legion post in Gardiner was told it could purchase a special license for just $7.50 a year, provided it charged no more than $1 per person and players did not gamble.

"But they want to do it their way," Gomane said.

The licensing fees are too expensive for a nickel-and-dime tournament, said American Legion Cmdr. Bob Mckay. He has contacted state Reps. Stephen Hanley, D-Gardiner, and Earl McCormick, R-West Gardiner, for help.

Hanley said veterans shouldn't have to pay fees to play games at their legion halls. "They've already paid their dues," he said. "These guys earned the privilege to play cribbage."

Don Austin, a disabled Air Force veteran from Gardiner, said the dispute has upset pretty much everybody who plays in the cribbage games.

"Our vets are out fighting for freedom and when those boys come home they can't even come into their own post and play a game of cards and talk to each other," said Austin, 56. "That don't sound right."

What a country we live in. Oh but you can play cribbage, if you give the state their "cut" in the form of a license.

Instead of fighting for the flag, these poor Vets should have fought for the right to gamble 5 bucks instead.
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Police state! Police state!
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I disagree with the OP that these vets are a "menace".
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I don't necessarily agree with what happened, but how often can you use this excuse?

"They've already paid their dues," he said. "These guys earned the privilege to ..."
Can't that just be used for everything?
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To gamble $5? Yeah, I think it's fair to play that card.
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Gambling is gambling. Think of the children.

Maybe these vets should have trained in the CIA, and no one would know about these games.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Gambling is gambling. Think of the children.
Their children are probably all retired vets too!
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"15 for 2, 15 for 4, throw the inspector out the door.."

This reminds me of when they stopped all "pot games" (not that kind of pot) at the bowling alleys because they were illegal.. Eventually they allowed it again. As long as the bowling alley didn't organize it then it was all good. Same thing will probably happen here.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Their children are probably all retired vets too!
those young whipper snappers!
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Why don't the Vets go to somebody's home instead of a public building. Problem solved, and they can give a middle finger to the state at the same time.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Why don't the Vets go to somebody's home instead of a public building. Problem solved, and they can give a middle finger to the state at the same time.
Since you're not married I'm gonna give you a pass with this question.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Why don't the Vets go to somebody's home instead of a public building. Problem solved, and they can give a middle finger to the state at the same time.
The American Legion needs a license to hold cribbage tournaments because it sells things to players, such as food and alcohol, he said.
Cheap steak dinners and tenderloin sandwiches, alcohol, a place to get together and a place to get away from their wives.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Why don't the Vets go to somebody's home instead of a public building. Problem solved, and they can give a middle finger to the state at the same time.

Right because surely the police have never busted home gambling games before.


edit: ....and what wenders said. If you're a married WWII vet, I can't imagine any desire stronger than wanting to get away from your wife for a few hours a day.
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They play cribbage & bingo at the American Legion.

We don't engage in such things at the VFW.
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Originally Posted by classicman2
We don't engage in such things at the VFW.
Is that where you go to watch stag films?
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They play Bridge at the VFW.
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We do positive things at the VFW - like raising money for scholarships for needy students.
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Well, if they want all the nice conveniences of The American Legion, the place needs to cough up the money for a license. Otherwise, go to Fred's house and order the gum-friendly tenderloin sandwiches and alcohol from The American Legion.

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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Right because surely the police have never busted home gambling games before.
Yeah, I'm sure the police are hot on those WWII Veteran's gambling places. That would really make the news and put the PD in great community favor.

Hell, I can even picture the shift sargeant sending out memos to all police officers, giving descriptions of old men being scene in particular neighborhoods.

Gives new meaning to the word gumshoe.
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The first VFW was founded in Columbus, Ohio in 1899.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_of_Foreign_Wars
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1899, eh. I guess that means c-man was a founding member.
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Columbus OH - home of so many "firsts" in American history - first shopping mall, first drive-up ATM, first VFW, first soccer-specific stadium, the American Federation of Labor...

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It almost pisses me off (and I don't get pissed off easily) when people confuse the American Legion with the VFW.
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Originally Posted by classicman2
It almost pisses me off (and I don't get pissed off easily) when people confuse the American Legion with the VFW.
I know the difference. My dad was a WWII vet and was a member of both.
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You know you're from Ohio if... You don't think of Florida first when someone mentions Miami.
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