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6 Arrested In Fort Dix Terror Plot

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CBS 3) CHERRY HILL Authorities have arrested six people in an alleged terrorist plot targeting soldiers at Fort Dix.

Six men were planning to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday.

The suspects were arrested early Tuesday, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the United States Attorney's Office in New Jersey.

The FBI was tipped off to the group in early 2006 after someone brought a video to a store to be copied onto DVD, according to the agency's criminal complaint. The video showed 10 men, including the six arrested, shooting assault weapons in militia style and calling for jihad, the complaint said.

"What concerns us is, obviously, they began conducting surveillance and weapons training in the woods and were discussing killing large numbers of soldiers," said Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd.

The men had been under surveillance for 16 months and practiced their attacks in the Pocono Mountains in northeastern Pennsylvania..

Federal officials said the plot was in the planning stages and there was no imminent threat of an attack. Officials said it was more of a "homegrown" plot with no ties to Al Qaeda or any other international terrorist organization.

An FBI complaint said the suspects included:

- Dritan, Shain and Eljvir Duka, three brothers from former Yugoslavia who came to the country illegally and were living in Cherry Hill.

- Agron Abdullahu, a Yugoslavian native who was living legally in Williamstown.

- Serdar Tatar, a Turkish-born, legal U.S. resident who sourced said was arrested in the 2100 block of Tremont Street in Philadelphia

- Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, a U.S. citizen from Jordan living in Pennsauken who worked as a cab driver. Sources said he was taken into custody while in his cab at the Philadelphia International Airport.

Officials said the men attempted to purchase AK-47s from an arms dealer who was secretly cooperating with law enforcement agents.

Sources said the suspects trained for the plot in an area off of Route 380 in the Poconos. The suspects apparently had maps and had done surveillance on Fort Dix in preparation for the plot.

According to the FBI complaint, Tatar delivered pizzas to Fort Dix from his family owned pizza restaurant.

By March 2006, the group had been infiltrated by an informant who developed a relationship with Shnewer, according to court documents. The informant secretly recorded meetings in August in which Shnewer said he and the others were part of a group planning to attack a U.S. military base, the complaints said.

Shnewer named Fort Dix and a nearby Navy base, explaining that the group "could utilize six or seven jihadists to attack and kill at least one hundred soldiers by using rocket-propelled grenades" or other weapons, the complaints said.


Authorities said the suspects were also conducting surveillance on other locations including Fort Monmouth, Dover Air Force Base and the United Coast Guard Building in Philadelphia. Sources told CBS 3 the Philadelphia Naval Yard and Federal Building at 6th and Arch Streets were also targeted by the suspects.

Jerri Williams, spokeswoman for the FBI in Philadelphia, said U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark and J.P. Weis, special agent in charge of the FBI in Philadelphia, have scheduled a news conference at 2:30 p.m. at the U.S. District Courthouse in Camden.

Officials at Fort Dix said they were on their highest alert level in a statement that read in part:

“The Fort Dix and McGuire AFB law enforcement community has partnered with the FBI and local communities during this lengthy investigation to ensure the safety of our joint installations.”

Fort Dix is used to train soldiers, particularly reservists. In 1999, it sheltered more than 4,000 ethnic Albanian refugees during the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia.

After that war, refugees were allowed to return to the U.N.-run province of Kosovo in Serbia or to seek permanent residency in the United States. The U.N. Security Council is considering whether to approve a plan to grant Kosovo independence from Serbia under the supervision of the European Union and the United States.

Since 2001, the base has been closed to the public. There are heavily armed guards at entrances, along with X-ray machines. Yet the main road through neighboring Cookstown cuts through the base and is accessible to the public. A half-dozen locations on the base, including at least two where soldiers were conducting maneuvers Tuesday morning, were only a few hundred yards off the main road.
Some Yugoslavians, a Turk, and a Jordanian. Wonder what's the commone denominator?
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Sounds like the plot for the next season of Sleeper Cell.
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Since 2001, the base has been closed to the public. There are heavily armed guards at entrances, along with X-ray machines. Yet the main road through neighboring Cookstown cuts through the base and is accessible to the public. A half-dozen locations on the base, including at least two where soldiers were conducting maneuvers Tuesday morning, were only a few hundred yards off the main road.

That's a confusing statement. The base is closed to the public yet a public road runs right through it.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Some Yugoslavians, a Turk, and a Jordanian. Wonder what's the commone denominator?
Seems pretty obvious the common denominator was their hatred of America. Was that not what you were looking for?
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didn't we intern people at Fort Dix a few years ago for some reason?
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Originally Posted by dick_grayson
didn't we intern people at Fort Dix a few years ago for some reason?

The article mentions refugees "it sheltered more than 4,000 ethnic Albanian refugees during the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia." is that what you're thinking about?
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That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
That's a confusing statement. The base is closed to the public yet a public road runs right through it.
Not sure if the link will come through properly or not, but it certainly looks like there is a public road that cuts through the base

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?na...resize=l&trf=0
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Originally Posted by nemein
The article mentions refugees "it sheltered more than 4,000 ethnic Albanian refugees during the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia." is that what you're thinking about?
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Originally Posted by bhk
Some Yugoslavians, a Turk, and a Jordanian. Wonder what's the commone denominator?
When I first heard this story, I was wondering if it was some DVDTalkers!
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A Turk, a Slav and a Jordanian walk into a bar...
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Originally Posted by CRM114
That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?
Yeah, and if they actually carried it out, you would've said it was Bush's fault and wonder why he can't keep us safe!
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Originally Posted by CRM114
That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?

I wonder if it should be called a terrorist attack if an enemy directly attacks our military? Seems like a frontal assault to me.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I wonder if it should be called a terrorist attack if an enemy directly attacks our military? Seems like a frontal assault to me.
Evidently, these guys weren't interested in killing civilians. Interesting. Why not strap on bombs and commit 6 separate suicide bombings?
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Evidently, these guys weren't interested in killing civilians. Interesting. Why not strap on bombs and commit 6 separate suicide bombings?
I don't understand that either. It's like they take their time planning and planning and eventually get nabbed. Perhaps they were first giong to capture them and then put them in an un-necessarily slow dipping mechanism into a pit of sharks with laser beams on their frickin' heads?

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That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?
That was my reaction.

WTG, terrorists!
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Well I at least give them credit for going after military targets, but thankfully these bastards were caught before they could do any real damage.
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According to the FBI complaint, Tatar delivered pizzas to Fort Dix from his family owned pizza restaurant.
Sounds like it would have been much easier to send a flyer advertising a huge one day only special on the purchase of 100 extra large pizzas and poison them.

I'm probably too smart to be a terrorist.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?
Many installations only have a handful of civilian guards for security. It's not like everybody has an M4 slung across their shoulder.
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Many installations only have a handful of civilian guards for security. It's not like everybody has an M4 slung across their shoulder.
But its not like they couldn't equip themselves in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
hmmm... if every resident of the U.S. was equally likely to be involved in this plot, the chances of all of them being of this particular faith are 10^-8, or 0.00000001.

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Oops, I thought there were only three of them. If it was six clowns, the chances are 10^-64, or 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.
Your math sucks. Next time, try not raising your exponents to exponents (or whatever you were doing).

CIA world factbook lists muslims as 1% of the US population. Assuming that's correct, then your odds of randomly choosing 6 Muslims out of the entire US would be 0.01^6 = 0.000000000001.
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That would be smart. 6 clowns attacking an ARMY BASE. People are afraid of these idiots (besides bhk)?
Not sure what you mean by that, but these guys could have done a lot of damage. 6 guys with AK47s walking into the commissary an opening fire could kill a lot of people. I don't think anyone was worried about these guys taking over the base, and I am sure these 6 guys didn't plan on gettign out alive - they just wanted to kill the most amount of people while they were there.
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Yeah who would be afraid of 6 guys with assault weapons bent on killing large amounts of people?!
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Originally Posted by cpgator
Not sure what you mean by that, but these guys could have done a lot of damage. 6 guys with AK47s walking into the commissary an opening fire could kill a lot of people. I don't think anyone was worried about these guys taking over the base, and I am sure these 6 guys didn't plan on gettign out alive - they just wanted to kill the most amount of people while they were there.
How exactly do 6 guys with AK47's "walk into a commissary" on an army base? Even if they took that through road, its not like it would be easy...

The poisoned pizzas would be much more effective...

I understand your point though. Their chances were very slim.
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Yeah who would be afraid of 6 guys with assault weapons bent on killing large amounts of people?!
All of the Americans who lay awake in fear of the Islamic revolution!
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