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Old 04-29-07, 05:38 PM
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Bush official who said abstinence was better than condoms hired a prostitute!

Heh heh heh.

This hypocrisy is hilarious!


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Prostitution scandal has Washington in new 'shock and awe'

Apr 28 04:17 PM US/Eastern

The demise of a call-girl ring and pending trial of an alleged madam claiming thousands of clients has the US capital riveted by the chance powerful men may now be caught with their trousers down, with a senior state department official apparently first to fall.

Deborah Jeane Palfrey, 50, dubbed the DC Madam in local media, has been arraigned in federal court on charges of operating a Washington prostitution service for 13 years until her retirement in 2006.

Palfrey has denied she ran a prostitution ring. Her company, Pamela Martin and Associates, was simply a "high-end adult fantasy firm which offered legal sexual and erotic services across the spectrum of adult sexual behavior and did so without incident during its 13 year tenure," she said.

Palfrey contends her escort service provided university educated women to engage in legal game-playing of a sexual nature at 275 dollars an hour for a 90 minute session, the Washington Post reported.

But Palfrey has also hinted that she has a record of the phone numbers of thousands of more than 10,000 customers that could embarrass more the a few of the US capital's high-fliers.

Friday, the US State Department announced that Randall Tobias, the embattled head of the US Agency for International Development (USAID), was resigning for unspecified personal reasons.

However ABC News, which said Palfrey has provided it with a record of the numbers of calls to her private cell phone, reported that Tobias stepped down after they spoke to him about his allegedly contacting her number.

Tobias since 2003 also was President George W. Bush's first global AIDS coordinator, a job which drew criticism for his emphasis on faithfulness to partners and abstinence over condom use in trying to prevent the spread of the AIDS virus.


Before entering government he was chairman, president and chief executive of the pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly, and also, from 1997-2000, chairman of the board of trustees at Duke University.

His now-reported links to a firm accused of prostitution have raised more than a few eyebrows.

Palfrey's California home and other assets were seized by US tax authorities in October, and Palfrey has been trying to raise funds for her defense through an appeal on her website.

Her lawyer, Montgomery Blair Sibley, told Fox television last month: "The statistical certainty (is) that there are a fair number of high-profile people who used this service across the government and private sector in the metropolitan DC area."

And the Post reported Saturday that local jitters appear to be multiplying. It said Sibley claimed that "he has been contacted in the past few days has been contacted by five lawyers asking whether their clients' phone numbers are on Palfrey's list of 10,000 to 15,000 customers from 2002 to 2006."

That may have something to do with the fact that Palfrey already has named her first name, as it were, on her website, where she has posted a court document from April 12 in which she alleges formal US naval commander Harlan Ullman was a "regular customer" whom she needs to subpoena.

With James Wade, Ullman developed the military doctrine of "shock and awe" used by US government in its invasion of Iraq. According to one definition, it is shorthand for rapid dominance based on the use of "overwhelming decisive force," "dominant maneuvers," and "spectacular displays of power" to subdue the other side.

Earlier this month Ullman told CNN that "The allegations do not dignify a response," and referred any other questions to his lawyer.
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Old 04-29-07, 06:07 PM
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Not only was he the "abstinence czar", but he also very publicly spoke out against... wait for it... you guessed it... prosititution!

From Slate:
Another retrospectively risible portion of Tobias' Frontline interview concerned a legal requirement that recipients of U.S. aid denounce prostitution:
Originally Posted by Randall Tobias
The Congress I think very appropriately has put into the legislation that created this program that organizations, in order to receive money, need to have a policy opposed to prostitution and sex trafficking. I don't think it's too difficult for people to be opposed to prostitution and sex trafficking, which are in fact two contributing causes to the spread of HIV/AIDS. I think when organizations initially became aware of that requirement, some organizations were concerned about what the implications of that might be, but we implemented that in the first year with non-U.S. organizations. We're now implementing that requirement with U.S. organizations. And so far, I really know of no problems that we've had on the ground.
Now we know there was one problem, but with Tobias' departure that matter is resolved.
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Old 04-29-07, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
Not only was he the "abstinence czar", but he also very publicly spoke out against... wait for it... you guessed it... prosititution!

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Bwa ha ha!
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Old 04-29-07, 06:32 PM
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Meh, at least the guy didn't kill the call-girl and go after her spy boyfriend. (speaking Russian)

But seriously, I think it is pretty sad as in that this is just another example of women being oppressed.
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Women being oppressed? This isn't necessarily an oppressive trade, you know. There are women who consciously do this to make money and profit a healthy amount, if I must say so.
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No, it's the prosecution part that's oppressive.

The gals get thrown in jail by the sex Nazis while the men in power just blush and step out of the spotlight for a while.
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Damn, can't a brotha get a massage?

Why can't you preach abstinence and hire someone for a massage...is there a blue dress that proves there was a happy ending??
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Old 04-29-07, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IMRICKJAMES
Damn, can't a brotha get a massage?

Why can't you preach abstinence and hire someone for a massage...is there a blue dress that proves there was a happy ending??


C'mon... I know you're a self-confessed member of the "dirty thirty"... but even you have to concede that no one is going to call up a high-priced escort service ($400 per "session") and just get a massage.
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Dick Morris was also a client
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Old 04-29-07, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NCMojo


C'mon... I know you're a self-confessed member of the "dirty thirty"... but even you have to concede that no one is going to call up a high-priced escort service ($400 per "session") and just get a massage.
It depends on the quality of the massage and the quality of the masseuse. I might pay $400 for a massage if I was rich and she looked like Lucy Liu
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It depends on the quality of the massage and the quality of the masseuse. I might pay $400 for a massage if I was rich and she looked like Lucy Liu
Who the fuck cares what the masseuse looks like... if all you're getting is a massage? Frankly, if I only want a massage, I'd rather have Helga, the butch-looking muscular she-man, than Bambi, a lily-white bony blonde girl with soft mincing hands. Now, if I want to hire a woman to have sex with... like Randall Tobias did... I'd hire Bambi.

Hey, here's a thought: if I wanted a massage, I'd probably call up, you know... a masseuse. Not, say... an escort service. If I called up an escort service... and only got a massage... that would make me... hmm, what's the word... gay. Or at least extremely stupid.

Then again... if he was gay, maybe that would explain his nomination... as well as where George's right hand is...

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As long as he didn't use a condom I don't have a problem with it.
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As long as he didn't use a condom I don't have a problem with it.
Really? You don't think it's more than a bit hypocritical? You know, to preach monogomy and fidelity and talk about "prostitution and sex trafficking, which are in fact two contributing causes to the spread of HIV/AIDS"... when you, yourself, are seeing a prostitute?

I don't really see this as a slam on the Bush Administration... but I don't like hypocrisy on any level.
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
Really? You don't think it's more than a bit hypocritical? You know, to preach monogomy and fidelity and talk about "prostitution and sex trafficking, which are in fact two contributing causes to the spread of HIV/AIDS"... when you, yourself, are seeing a prostitute?

I don't really see this as a slam on the Bush Administration... but I don't like hypocrisy on any level.
Yeah, that was a joke.
I don't have a problem with him seeing a prostitute. I think it should be legal and regulated.
I do have a problem with him being a hypocritic asshat. Worse than being a hypocrit is the whole "I didn't inhale" bullshit. Be a man and own up
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No, it's the prosecution part that's oppressive.

The gals get thrown in jail by the sex Nazis while the men in power just blush and step out of the spotlight for a while.
Looks like this is the second time today I've misunderstood people.

Well, I agree. We put women in prison for sex crimes and the guys who write the laws are getting blow jobs while drafting the legislation. Gotta love America. New motto for the USA: "Do whatever you want: just don't get caught."
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Isn't there a Democrat running for president who pays $400 per haircut? (Well, his campaign does anyway.) Could or should a massage cost as much as a haircut?

Just asking.
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Haircuts are legal.

Unless it's pubes.
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Isn't there a Democrat running for president who pays $400 per haircut? (Well, his campaign does anyway.) Could or should a massage cost as much as a haircut?

Just asking.
I did appreciate the irony of some people jumping on Edward's case about the $400 haircut... and then saying they'd spend the same amount on a hooker to come and just give them a massage.
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"Massage and a haircut, 1600 bits!"
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Originally Posted by Groucho
"Massage and a haircut, 1600 bits!"
Actually a massage and haircut would be 3200 bits, unless you're getting some kind of 2 for 1 special that I don't know about.
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He didn't use his own money to pay for his $400 haircuts. They were paid by the people who donated to his campaign.


http://www.quadcitytimes.com/article...0302149596.txt

Edwards 'embarrassed' by haircut

By Todd Dorman | Friday, April 20, 2007

ADEL, Iowa — As a gusty spring wind tousled his neatly trimmed locks Friday, Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said he’s embarrassed about his now-famous $400 haircut.

Campaign finance records show that Edwards’ campaign paid a Beverly Hills stylist $400 for his haircuts. Those pricey snips have undercut Edwards’ image as a populist crusading for the little guy.

“It’s a ridiculous amount of money for a haircut,” Edwards told reporters after a campaign stop on Adel’s town square. “I’m actually embarrassed by it.

“This guy had to come to where I was to get a haircut. I knew it’d be expensive. I didn’t know it would be that expensive. Hopefully, I’ll have enough sense not to do that again.”

Edwards rejected the notion that his haircuts don’t jibe with his campaign message. He spent Friday touting a plan for rural recovery that calls for helping small farmers and business owners.

“It doesn’t change who I am, what I believe in,” Edwards said. “My whole life has been spent standing up for people who have no voice, and I’ll do that as long as I’m alive.”

Edwards joked about the haircut fallout during his talk to 150 voters. He said his personal story is an example of why people want to come to America.

“They want to come here because people like me ... the son of a mill worker ... can now be running for president and paying $400 for a haircut,” Edwards said to loud laughter.
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Thank goodness for this guy that Clinton made it OK for pols to engage in their sexual peccadillos while working for the public.

Fire this guy.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Thank goodness for this guy that Clinton made it OK for pols to engage in their sexual peccadillos while working for the public.

Fire this guy.
Well, he's already resigned... which may/may not be preferable to being fired.
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He didn't use his own money to pay for his $400 haircuts. They were paid by the people who donated to his campaign.
Yeah, it's a really dead issue. But we were talking about hypocrisy... and anyone who would attack Edwards for his $400 haircut while simultaneously absolving Tobias for his $400 "massage"...

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Kind of reminds me of the Bush Administration constantly denouncing terrorism, when in truth they are the biggest terrorists around.
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I heard a quick news report on this 'DC Madame' that said some of the names have already been released. Any other names out there?
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