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Old 04-05-07, 06:46 PM
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Missouri bill calls for crackdown on sale of.....

baking soda.....

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...8?OpenDocument

JEFFERSON CITY First, the state said you must make a special trip to the pharmacy counter to buy certain cold medicines. That was to curb production of methamphetamine.

Now, a St. Louis legislator wants you to do the same thing to buy an even more common household item baking soda because it's used to make crack cocaine.

Sales of cold medications containing pseudoephedrine, such as Sudafed, are strictly regulated in Missouri. Customers must show a photo ID when they buy the medicine. Pharmacists must log the names and addresses of buyers, including how much they buy. People under 18 may not buy the medicines.

The sponsor of the baking soda bill, Rep. Talibdin El-Amin, D-St. Louis, said the same approach was needed for baking soda because crack cocaine is often produced by dissolving powdered cocaine in a mixture of water and baking soda.

"We have crack cocaine running rampant in our neighborhoods," he said. "Don't get me wrong, meth needs to be tackled. But anything that calls attention and brings the crack cocaine problem to the forefront is a positive step."

Don't expect a change any time soon, though. The bill, filed late last month, has yet to reach committee consideration and likely won't reach the House floor for debate this year.

Critics say such a law would be impossible to enforce because baking soda, which is used as a deodorant, as a cleaning agent and in antacid, among other things, is so common.

"To put it behind the counter and create a log that a zillion people would have to use, the law would be completely useless," said David Overfelt, president of the Missouri Retailers Association.

Baking soda could also be replaced in making crack cocaine with drain cleaner or ammonia, others say.

"With these drugs, there are so many different chemicals that can be used batteries, coffee filters, anything," said Ron Leone, executive director of the Missouri Petroleum Marketers and Convenience Store Association. "It's like MacGyver. Everything's possible."

Drug enforcement experts say the differences between regulating the sale of pseudoephedrine and the sale of baking soda are sizable.

"When you generate a list of people who use baking soda, it pretty much includes everyone. It's a common household item," said Tom Murphy, a special agent with the St. Louis division of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

But Murphy said cocaine, in all of its forms, should be seen as a real problem.

"Cocaine is still the primary drug of concern in St. Louis and East St. Louis, Ill.," he said. "It's second behind meth in the rural areas. It's still around."

The baking soda bill is HB1189.

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First they took away the pseudoephedrine, and no one said a word....

Then they took away the baking soda.....
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Old 04-05-07, 06:53 PM
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I say we require registration before you use water from the tap. Water is an essential ingredient in almost every illegal substance in existence, after all. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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They can take my baking soda when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers...
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This has to be one of these symbolic bills to make a point.

It has to be!

And what is all this talk about East St. Louis, which isn in another state? Isn't their population only 30,000?
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Insane.
Don't forget, most people either drive or walk to buy crack, or to go to the store to buy the stuff to make crack, so we should outlaw cars and shoes.
And they use money to buy the stuff, so outlaw money (of course, with tax increases on the way, that's in progress).
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Crackheads don't have cars...

Or shoes, for that matter.
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stop profiling.

Yes, I think it's time to revisit the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.
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Crackheads don't have cars...

Or shoes, for that matter.
Well then, OFF WITH THEIR FEET!
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Originally Posted by Ranger
This has to be one of these symbolic bills to make a point.

It has to be!

And what is all this talk about East St. Louis, which isn in another state? Isn't their population only 30,000?
Yes, ESL is in Illinois and is one the biggest shitholes in the western hemisphere.
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Yes, I think it's time to revisit the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

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I say we require registration before you use water from the tap. Water is an essential ingredient in almost every illegal substance in existence, after all. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Ok. Even I'll admit this is ridiculous legislation.
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I agree with wildcatlh. It's the only way to be sure.
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Big deal, they'll use baking power from now on
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Great. Now how am I supposed to make my crac... er, quickbreads?
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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
First they took away the pseudoephedrine, and no one said a word....

Then they took away the baking soda.....
Speaking of this, I purchased pseudoephedrine for the first time yesterday since the changes. Unbelievable. Name, address, a driver's license number so I could have some freaking cough syrup.
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first baking soda, then they take away Tums
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Originally Posted by Duran
Speaking of this, I purchased pseudoephedrine for the first time yesterday since the changes. Unbelievable. Name, address, a driver's license number so I could have some freaking cough syrup.
I think they should just make it so you have to present ID and sign a log every time you buy something. It would save a lot of time for our legislators.

By the way, has anyone begun studying whether or not this fucking ridiculous Sudafed log system has done anything to the meth problem?
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Speaking of this, I purchased pseudoephedrine for the first time yesterday since the changes. Unbelievable. Name, address, a driver's license number so I could have some freaking cough syrup.
Oklahoma was the first state to initiate such a law.

It apparently has reduced the production of meth in the state.
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It apparently has reduced the production of meth in the state.
Same for us.
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