Why so many scandals? (Rep. Weldon "under investigation")
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Why so many scandals? (Rep. Weldon "under investigation")
I mean, shouldn't the media be helping cover them up? It's amazing that the party in power, especially one whose sitting administration is so good at spin, doesn't have the ability to clamp down on this.
Anyway, first we had Plamegate and the Abramoff (sp?) scandals.
Then we had DeLay.
Then we had Foley, the throes of which we're still in...
Harry Reid has barely been mentioned, because the scandal is puny in comparison to others...
NOW we have <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061014/ap_on_go_co/congressman_investigation_4" target="_weldonsfavoritism">Rep. Weldon</a> too.
This scandal isn't and won't be as big as the Foley fiasco and I realize the election's around the corner - hell, I have my absentee ballot in hand - but does or will anybody care about this new "scandal"?
It's stupid to compare this new scandal to the Reid one, do you think this new Weldon investigation is going to stick? I'd say it will stick more than Reid's simply because Weldon's a Republican and the country's in a foul mood when it comes to current Congressional Republican ethics.
I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say by starting this thread. This new scandal just seems like some "intrepid" reporter digging up shit, throwing it at the wall, and hoping it sticks.
Anyway...
-ringding-
Edited to add the article text, in the spoiler below:
Anyway, first we had Plamegate and the Abramoff (sp?) scandals.
Then we had DeLay.
Then we had Foley, the throes of which we're still in...
Harry Reid has barely been mentioned, because the scandal is puny in comparison to others...
NOW we have <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061014/ap_on_go_co/congressman_investigation_4" target="_weldonsfavoritism">Rep. Weldon</a> too.
This scandal isn't and won't be as big as the Foley fiasco and I realize the election's around the corner - hell, I have my absentee ballot in hand - but does or will anybody care about this new "scandal"?
It's stupid to compare this new scandal to the Reid one, do you think this new Weldon investigation is going to stick? I'd say it will stick more than Reid's simply because Weldon's a Republican and the country's in a foul mood when it comes to current Congressional Republican ethics.
I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say by starting this thread. This new scandal just seems like some "intrepid" reporter digging up shit, throwing it at the wall, and hoping it sticks.
Anyway...
-ringding-
Edited to add the article text, in the spoiler below:
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It's part of politics. These guys don't climb to the top by playing fair. For every scandal that gets reported think of how many get covered up and go unnoticed.
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Originally Posted by John Galt
It's part of politics. These guys don't climb to the top by playing fair. For every scandal that gets reported think of how many get covered up and go unnoticed.
Originally Posted by General Zod
October... Election year.
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In that case, the political environment has changed. The two parties are always out to get each other now. There's obviously always been fighting and disagrement among parties, but in recent years it has gotten nastier and the parties are much more bitter towards one another. Used to, congressmen from opposing parties would constantly get together for drinks and such after work and were able to put politics behind them, nowadays they just socialize within their own party and when they get together all they do is bash the other party which just creates even more hatred.
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Yes, but... In my short decade and a half of political awareness, I don't remember there ever being this many of them, these two factors aside.
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Isn't there at least the slightest possibility that this could be related to the K Street Project? I mean, a lot of these scandals seem related to lobbyists... and the whole K Street Project was an attempt to curry exclusive favor from lobbyists...
That, and I think the current GOP leadership is way too beholden to large corporations. It's one thing to consider the interests of corporate America when deciding on legislation; it's another thing to let corporations write the legislation itself, and dictate policy.
I know, I know, we're all supposed to pretend that these kind of scandals are completely bipartisan... but at least before, when the Democrats were involved, there was at least the appearence of proprietry. Sure, there were bad apples in the barrel, but it wasn't this widespread, this indoctrinated.
That, and I think the current GOP leadership is way too beholden to large corporations. It's one thing to consider the interests of corporate America when deciding on legislation; it's another thing to let corporations write the legislation itself, and dictate policy.
I know, I know, we're all supposed to pretend that these kind of scandals are completely bipartisan... but at least before, when the Democrats were involved, there was at least the appearence of proprietry. Sure, there were bad apples in the barrel, but it wasn't this widespread, this indoctrinated.
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Republicans are spending millions of dollars on negative advertising, and Democrats are simply responding by exposing corrupt conservatives. I wonder which will have more effect at the polls.
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Me too. I want more oral sex, goddamnit.
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
I miss the appearence of propiety when the Democrats were involved in scandals. 


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Originally Posted by NCMojo
I know, I know, we're all supposed to pretend that these kind of scandals are completely bipartisan... but at least before, when the Democrats were involved, there was at least the appearence of proprietry. Sure, there were bad apples in the barrel, but it wasn't this widespread, this indoctrinated.
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Originally Posted by John Galt
That's funny, I haven't noticed any appearance of propriety in the scandals the Democrats have been involved in in your state legislature.
And my hunch is that Black loses his speaker's seat with the new legislature.
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Because of human nature.
The powerful always have a feeling that because of that power, they can get away with things ordinary people cannot. Add to that the new media in which information can get around the world in less than one hour. Also the tone of the old media has changed as well. Previously be it athletes or politicians, reporters didn't try to ferret out so many things in their personal lives(Mickey Mantle's alcoholism, JFK's philandering etc..). That changed in the '70s.
The powerful always have a feeling that because of that power, they can get away with things ordinary people cannot. Add to that the new media in which information can get around the world in less than one hour. Also the tone of the old media has changed as well. Previously be it athletes or politicians, reporters didn't try to ferret out so many things in their personal lives(Mickey Mantle's alcoholism, JFK's philandering etc..). That changed in the '70s.
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Agents raid homes of Rep. Curt Weldon’s daughter, close friend
Federal agents raided the home of the daughter of U.S. Rep. Curt Weldon (R., Pa.) and his longtime friend Charlie Sexton this morning.
The agents departed Karen Weldon's three-story brick home on Queen Street in Philadelphia with arms loaded with boxes.
WOW! The hits just keep coming for Republicans. They are literally giving away seats as I definitely think this seat moves to leans Democratic. Sestak was a Rear Admiral in the navy and will be a great representative. Go Sestak!
Federal agents raided the home of the daughter of U.S. Rep. Curt Weldon (R., Pa.) and his longtime friend Charlie Sexton this morning.
The agents departed Karen Weldon's three-story brick home on Queen Street in Philadelphia with arms loaded with boxes.
WOW! The hits just keep coming for Republicans. They are literally giving away seats as I definitely think this seat moves to leans Democratic. Sestak was a Rear Admiral in the navy and will be a great representative. Go Sestak!
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I don't live in Foley's or Weldon's districts so I really could care less. I'm not going to vote for or against either candidate running for my district because of something that these two bozos did.
I would however like to see more of the corrupt stuff that Bob Menendez in NJ has done to come out and get more attention. But he has a big ole D after his name and that is all that matters in NJ. This guy steered at least hundreds of thousands of dollars his way and that is just as bad as what Weldon is being accused off.
I would however like to see more of the corrupt stuff that Bob Menendez in NJ has done to come out and get more attention. But he has a big ole D after his name and that is all that matters in NJ. This guy steered at least hundreds of thousands of dollars his way and that is just as bad as what Weldon is being accused off.
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Originally Posted by chowderhead
Federal agents raided the home of the daughter of U.S. Rep. Curt Weldon (R., Pa.) and his longtime friend Charlie Sexton this morning.
