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Old 03-06-06, 11:25 AM
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Supreme Court Upholds College Military Recruiting Law

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Monday that colleges that accept federal money must allow military recruiters on campus, despite university objections to the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays.

Justices rejected a free-speech challenge from law school professors who claimed they should not be forced to associate with military recruiters or promote their campus appearances.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the decision, which was unanimous.

Law schools had become the latest battleground over the "don't ask, don't tell" policy allowing gay men and women to serve in the military only if they keep their sexual orientation to themselves.

Many universities forbid the participation of recruiters from public agencies and private companies that have discriminatory policies.

Roberts, writing his third decision since joining the court, said there are other less drastic options to protest the policy.

"A military recruiter's mere presence on campus does not violate a law school's right to associate, regardless of how repugnant the law school considers the recruiter's message," he wrote.

The federal law, known as the Solomon Amendment after its first congressional sponsor, mandates that universities give the military the same access as other recruiters or forfeit federal money.

College leaders have said they could not afford to lose federal help, some $35 billion a year.

The court heard arguments in the case in December, and justices signaled then that they had little problem with the law.

Roberts filed the only opinion, which was joined by every justice but Samuel Alito. Alito did not participate because he was not on the bench when the case was argued.

"The Solomon Amendment neither limits what law schools may say nor requires them to say anything," Roberts wrote.

The case is Rumsfeld v. Forum for Academic and Institutional Rights, 04-1152.
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unanimous decision. Nice to have that.
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Makes sense to me.
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Makes sense to me.
I agree.
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Stupid liberal commie colleges..
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Wow, when you get a unanimous decision against you, you know you've been Owned by the US Supreme Court.
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I have no problem with it.

The moron recruiters are easy enough to avoid.

I'd think college campuses wouldn't be the most beneficial places to recruit though, since most students probably have more ambitious career plans than joining the military.
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Seems fair to me. If they don't want the recruiters, don't take the money.
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I'd think college campuses wouldn't be the most beneficial places to recruit though, since most students probably have more ambitious career plans than joining the military.

Where are these colleges, Hong Kong or Japan?
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I'd think college campuses wouldn't be the most beneficial places to recruit though, since most students probably have more ambitious career plans than joining the military.
If it wasn't effective, there would have been no problem letting them in.
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I'm a strong supporter of First Amendment rights and a strong proponent of scrapping "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in favor of simply allowing gay men and women to serve openly -- and even I have no problem with SCOTUS's decision.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
The moron recruiters are easy enough to avoid.
why the broad brush?
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Originally Posted by Myster X
why the broad brush?
Why not ask the same question of this quote?

Stupid liberal commie colleges..
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The SCOTUS made the right call.

I wished public schools and colleges were able to detach themselves from federal funding so they wouldn't have to put up with nonsense like military recruiters.

Just another reason why private schools are better.
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Why not ask the same question of this quote?

Stupid liberal commie colleges..
one sounds pretty serious
the other, sarcasm
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Fine by me. I just ignored the recruiters. Things will remain as they were (if you go into most law schools in the country and look at the bulletin board near the career services office, there will usually be a posting that says, basically, that Military Recruiters come to campus, they violate the anti-discrimination laws, but they're still allowed to interview on campus because the law says that they have to be allowed to.)
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Originally Posted by Ranger
The SCOTUS made the right call.

I wished public schools and colleges were able to detach themselves from federal funding so they wouldn't have to put up with nonsense like military recruiters.

Just another reason why private schools are better.
I see.

We have an all-volunteer force and military recruitment is nonsense.

Perhaps you are all for a return to the draft?
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I see.

We have an all-volunteer force and military recruitment is nonsense.

Perhaps you are all for a return to the draft?
There you go again - trying to slip your draft plan by me.

Notice that I mentioned public schools which include high schools. I know for a fact that military recruiters aggressively target high school students. I believe that is indeed nonsense and a consequence of receiving public education.
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There you go again - trying to slip your draft plan by me.

Notice that I mentioned public schools which include high schools. I know for a fact that military recruiters aggressively target high school students. I believe that is indeed nonsense and a consequence of receiving public education.
Who do you suggest they 'target?'
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Do you believe that there is a difference between recruiting and aggressive recruiting?
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I believe you want a military to protect your ass, it's immaterial.

Of course - there is an alternative.
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Do you believe that there is a difference between recruiting and aggressive recruiting?
Does the adult joining up still not have a choice either way?
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They do have the choice but it's some of the recruiting tactics I have problems with.
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I say solve it all - return to the draft.
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I say solve it all - return to the draft.
A democratic nation would not claim full ownership of its people.


There are obvious reasons why there's not "enough" people joining the U.S. military.
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