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Old 11-10-05, 06:04 PM
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Pat Robertson: Dover, PA anti-ID voters "voted God out of their city"

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Nov 10, 2005 — By Alan Elsner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative Christian televangelist Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting "intelligent design" and warned them on Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

Robertson, a former Republican presidential candidate and founder of the influential conservative Christian Broadcasting Network and Christian Coalition, has a long record of similar apocalyptic warnings and provocative statements.

Last summer, he hit the headlines by calling for the assassination of leftist Venezuelan Present Hugo Chavez, one of President George W. Bush's most vocal international critics.

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Robertson said on his daily television show broadcast from Virginia, "The 700 Club."

"And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because he might not be there," he said.

The 700 Club claims a daily audience of around one million. It is also broadcast around the world translated into more than 70 languages.

In voting on Tuesday, all eight Dover, Pennsylvania, school board members up for re-election lost their seats after trying to introduce "intelligent design" to high school science students as an alternative to the theory of evolution.

Adherents of intelligent design argue that certain forms in nature are too complex to have evolved through natural selection and must have been created by a "designer." Opponents say it is the latest attempt by conservatives to introduce religion into the school science curriculum.

The Dover case sparked a trial in federal court that gained nationwide attention after the school board was sued by parents backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The board ordered schools to read students a short statement in biology classes informing them that the theory of evolution is not established fact and that gaps exist in it.

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Old 11-10-05, 06:09 PM
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Maybe we should just put Robertson and Streisand in a room together and have a "People's whose opinions we don't care about" smackdown!

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Old 11-10-05, 06:13 PM
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Whoa, whoa, whoa ... hold on a minute. I thought Intelligent Design had nothing whatsoever to do with God. Now I'm confused.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Whoa, whoa, whoa ... hold on a minute. I thought Intelligent Design had nothing whatsoever to do with God. Now I'm confused.
Yeah, a pretty blatant example of hypocracy... To push for Intelligent Design in public schools, saying it isn't explicitly religious, and then to scream "They've rejected God!" when you don't get your way...
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Whoa, whoa, whoa ... hold on a minute. I thought Intelligent Design had nothing whatsoever to do with God. Now I'm confused.


Uh oh, now the cat is out of the bag.

I guess the scientist Pat Robertson couldn't keep the preacher Pat Robertson quiet.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:20 PM
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I think I would laugh my ass off if ID was proven to be true, and the "Intelligence" was proven not to be "God" but an alien race looking for a few good laughs.
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Pat Robertson is an example of how Intelligent Design is absolutely impossible.
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I guess he's entitled to his opinion. Fortunately, God will still do what He wants, no matter what Mr. Robertson might say.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Pat Robertson is an example of how Intelligent Design is absolutely impossible.


But the fact that Pat has four childen and 14 grandchildren means natural selection is looking pretty shaky, too.
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Old 11-10-05, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Pat Robertson is an example of how Intelligent Design is absolutely impossible.
[Spottswoode] That was bad I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E., VERY bad I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.[/Spottswoode]

Robertson is a joke. The fact that people still take this guy seriously blows my mind.

God's holding a grudge against the whole town of Dover? Or will the oncoming plagues be selective?
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Old 11-10-05, 07:33 PM
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What a fruitfly.
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I think Robertson is getting more nutty. Last month it was advocating assassinating Hugo Chavez.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
Last month it was advocating assassinating Hugo Chavez.
His next move will be to combine the two and call for the assasination of the Dover school board President.

Using Pat's logic I guess we won't be seeing anymore tornadoes going through Kansas

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I think he'll just call for God to Intelligently Design an assassin to take down Dover.
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy
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God's holding a grudge against the whole town of Dover? Or will the oncoming plagues be selective?
There is a precedent. In Egypt, god (or, if you prefer, the Angel of Death working under orders from god) killed the first born male of every Egyptian family.
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But that was when he was a Jewish god. You can't really include that.
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Pat clarifies his thoughts

Later Thursday, Robertson issued a statement saying he was simply trying to point out that "our spiritual actions have consequences."

"God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever," Robertson said. "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
So if I understand him, we're Moe and God is Shemp.
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[Robertson] warned them on Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.
I don't think this even remotely represents what he said the the quotes.
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Wait, we can vote God out of our towns now? I thought God was everywhere.

I'd also like to listen in on Robertson's personal hotline with god, where God tells him exactly what he/she/it thinks, especially on matters of towns in Pennsylvania.
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If Pat Robertson was a Hindu, Muslim, or atheist, I wouldn't care what he says. The fact that he calls himself a Christian makes me sad.
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He so far off the right end... it kinda balances out the whole "politics" see saw!


What a whack job
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He will most likely back-peddle in a few days.

Edit: ah. I see from post #17 that he, like clockwork, has started back-peddling

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The fact that he calls himself a Christian makes me sad.
The Christians you see on TV are as authentic as the doctors on "ER".
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no, they voted god out of SCIENCE class
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The Christians you see on TV are as authentic as the doctors on "ER".
That applies to the politician-christians too.
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