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Old 11-09-05, 01:34 PM
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Explosions at 3 hotels in Jordan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/jordan_ex...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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AMMAN, Jordan - An explosion shook the Grand Hyatt hotel in Jordan's capital late Wednesday, and witnesses saw smoke rising from the building. A police official said some people had been killed, "and there are many wounded."

An American businessman who was at the hotel when the explosion occurred, said a "bomb that went off in the lobby." He declined to identify himself.

Police said the cause of the explosion was unknown.

A black cloud of smoke was seen rising from the building in the commercial Jebel Amman district following the blast at about 8:50 p.m. (1:50 p.m. EST).

Ambulances were seen rushing to the hotel.
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Old 11-09-05, 01:55 PM
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Jordan was ranked as one of the most anti-American countries in the world. I'd say that Western tourists would be foolish to go there.
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Reports now saying Radisson and Days Inn hotels also rocked by explosions.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/jordan_ex...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--

AMMAN, Jordan - Explosions hit three hotels in the Jordanian capital Wednesday night, and at least 12 people were killed. The first blast occurred at about 8:50 p.m. (1:50 p.m. EST) at the luxury Grand Hyatt hotel, popular with tourists and diplomats. Associated Press reporter Jamal Halaby, who was at the hotel, counted seven bodies being taken away. Police said there were many others injured.

A few minutes later, police reported an explosion at the Radisson SAS Hotel a short distance away. Police said five people were killed and at least 20 wounded.

Another explosion was reported at the Days Inn Hotel, and police said there were casualties.

Police had no word on what caused the explosions, although an American businessman at the Grand Hyatt said a bomb went off in the lobby. Witnesses saw smoke rising from the building.

Jordan, a close U.S. ally, has arrested scores of Islamic militants for plotting to carry out attacks in the moderate Arab kingdom. It has also sentenced numerous militants to death in absentia, including the Jordanian-born leader of al-Qaida in
Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

In July, prosecutors indicted five Jordanians in an alleged conspiracy to attack intelligence agents, tourists and hotels in Amman. Al-Zarqawi has not been linked to the alleged plot.
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Jodanian news agency now reporting that it was 3 suicide bombers acting simultaneously.
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I think we can rule out radical Christian group responsible.
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Considering Jordan is probably 5% Christian and 95% Muslim, I'd say you're probably correct.
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If we never stuck our nose in Iraq
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Depending on the motives of the bombers, we don't know that yet.

It's interesting you came to that sarcastic pro-Bush position so quickly.

Not all terrorist attacks are related to Iraq, but you have to logically ask yourself, is our presence in Iraq creating more terrorism. And if it is not, then please tell me why.

In related news, we may have Al Zarqawi dead or in custody within a month.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Depending on the motives of the bombers, we don't know that yet.

It's interesting you came to that sarcastic pro-Bush position so quickly.

Not all terrorist attacks are related to Iraq, but you have to logically ask yourself, is our presence in Iraq creating more terrorism. And if it is not, then please tell me why.

In related news, we may have Al Zarqawi dead or in custody within a month.
Nope, I think it probably has NOTHING to do with Iraq, but instead was making fun of people who blame everything in the world on Iraq...its not a pro-Bush statement, its an anti-moron statement
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i thought Bush said the world was a safer place?
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Chinese Police Warns of Possible Terror Attacks

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U.S. diplomats say that Chinese police have warned luxury hotels in China of possible terrorist attacks sometime next week. The warning Wednesday comes as preparations for President Bush's visit to Beijing later this month are under way.

The U.S. Embassy says the Chinese police warning was specific: Islamic extremists are planning to attack five and four-star hotels in China "sometime over the course of next week". The embassy advised Americans staying at luxury hotels to remain vigilant and to exercise caution.
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Originally Posted by tommy28
i thought Bush said the world was a safer place?
Terrorism, worldwide, is actually down.
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Really, how so. Are you talking per event or per body count.
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Originally Posted by classicman2
Terrorism, worldwide, is actually down.
I think it all depends upon what you call terrorism (aka are incidents in the Iraq war considered in that count)? If you do then the number of incidents is way up, if you don't it seems the number is down.

Since I can't get a pic from it go to http://www.tkb.org/ChartModule.jsp and run through it yourself. They seem to include the war incidents as terrorism related but if you pull those out (region search excluding middle east/south asia) the numbers from Jan 03 to today drop from about 800 to about 480. Unfortunately the "by country" only allows 12 at a time so you can't do a global excluding Iraq/Afghanistan search.

DISCLAIMER: I found this site mentioned in the wikipedia article on terrorism, I don't know anything about them beyond that...

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Originally Posted by classicman2
Terrorism, worldwide, is actually down.
HERESY!!!!


Actually, much like violence in schools after Columbine, it wasn't school violence that had risen, just news reports of school violence.
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
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Actually, much like violence in schools after Columbine, it wasn't school violence that had risen, just news reports of school violence.
I'm pretty sure a more expansive definition of terrorism has been adopted recently so incidents that weren't counted before would be now.
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ABC News Now having live feed of explosions.
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Originally Posted by bareva
ABC News Now having live feed of explosions.
Are you saying there are more explosions or are they showing recordings taken of the explosions?
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Are you saying there are more explosions or are they showing recordings taken of the explosions?
No, I meant news coverage of the attacks.
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Originally Posted by classicman2
Terrorism, worldwide, is actually down.
Hogwash!

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Apparently Jordanian citizens are being punished for co-operating with the US.

How's this going to play in the Arab world?

67 unfaithful getting what they deserve by going to a western hotel?

Or the realization that the monsters they've sympathized with for years don't care who they kill?
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Originally Posted by classicman2
Terrorism, worldwide, is actually down.
but media coverage is probably up
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Originally Posted by Nazgul
How's this going to play in the Arab world?

67 unfaithful getting what they deserve by going to a western hotel?

Or the realization that the monsters they've sympathized with for years don't care who they kill?
The first one.
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