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Old 11-01-05, 02:09 PM
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Senate Goes Into Rare Closed Session - Subject - Iraq

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Senate Goes Into Rare Closed Session

By Sharon Kehnemui Liss



WASHINGTON The U.S. Senate went into closed session Tuesday after Democrats enacted a rare parliamentary rule forcing the shut down of the Senate so senators could speak in a classified session about the lead-up to the war in Iraq.

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid demanded the chamber be closed so they could hold a secret session that they say was prompted by "misinformation and disinformation" given by the administration prior to entry into the war in Iraq.

"The purpose of this closed session in the Senate chamber is to finally give the truth to at least the members of the Senate, to finally call to task the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee," said House Minority Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois.

Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., is the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Ranking Democrat Jay Rockefeller said Democrats were promised that oversight would be conducted on the war, but nothing has been done yet.

Durbin said Democrats want to discuss launching "phase two" of an investigation into whether President Bush and the administration misused data to justify war in Iraq. He added that the decision to call for a closed session was also prompted by the recent indictment of I. Lewis Libby, the vice president's former chief of staff, on five counts of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements in the investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.

Libby was not indicted for revealing Valerie Plame Wilson's name, but for not being forthcoming about where he learned her name and whom he told. The investigation is ongoing, however, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told reporters last week.

A closed session is called when any senator demands one and a second motion is made. No vote is taken on whether to close the session. The last time a closed session was held was 25 years ago, Rockefeller said.

During a closed session, the chamber is shut to cameras, a security sweep is performed, and then Reid introduces a resolution calling for the launch of "phase two" of the intelligence committee's investigation.

"It is within the power of the majority to close down the closed session. They can do it by majority vote to return to the legislative calendar," Durbin said. "We're serving notice on them at this moment: be prepared for this motion every day until you face the reality. The Senate Intelligence Committee has a responsibility."
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CNN is saying the Democrats are mad as hell the Libby indictment didn't produce an uproar over the Iraq war; they were hoping the indictment would shift the focus from Libby onto the pre-war Iraq Intel.
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I believe it's fair to say that Democrats expected 'more' from the indictement.

It's really a waste of time, because the Republicans have the votes.
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food fight nothing! looks like an all out fist fight, bareknuckles!
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Nice way to unite the Republicans. And ensure the "constitutional option" if necessary.
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Old 11-01-05, 02:19 PM
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But the Republicans really don't want to return the legislative calendar, because they're getting hammered by the Democrats on budget reconciliation.
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Yeah, but how far does that really go to sway public opinion?

Regardless how successful they are with it, budget reconciliation just doesn't bring the sexy.
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It doesn't, but the current legislative business is a hell of lot more important to America than this. ANWR is part of the budget reconciliation.
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Agreed there, but that kind of bolsters my point; the Democrats have the upper hand on the substantive issues of the day (from what you're saying), yet instead of sticking to business they're fussily chasing sexy headlines. I find it kind of funny, and a little sad... not 'boo-hoo' sad, but 'pathetic' sad.
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This closed-door business means c-man is going to go into Senate-watching withdrawal shock.
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Originally Posted by Mutley Hyde
Agreed there, but that kind of bolsters my point; the Democrats have the upper hand on the substantive issues of the day (from what you're saying), yet instead of sticking to business they're fussily chasing sexy headlines. I find it kind of funny, and a little sad... not 'boo-hoo' sad, but 'pathetic' sad.
Its just the Dems poking the GOP in the chest for the past two years and the GOP wimps out every time. And then they proceed to spend more money.
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How are the Republicans wimping out here? It's the Dems that closed the doors to interrupt the budget debates for this silliness.
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How are the Republicans wimping out here? It's the Dems that closed the doors to interrupt the budget debates for this silliness.
I just heard Trent Lott on the radio whimpering like a little school girl.
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I don't understand it either. The Democrats were scoring points talking about the Republican spending, the Republican deficits, etc.

They're probably trying to force some action by the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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if all the doors are closed and the cameras are off, does ted still have to wear pants?
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if all the doors are closed and the cameras are off, does ted still have to wear pants?
Could be like a Minnesota Vikings cruise ship in there!
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Yes, and he's not allowed to take a little nip on the floor either.
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Durbin also said that the Democrats plan to employ this tactic everyday.
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I swear, Schumer is such a slimeball. Did you hear him?
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"The United States Senate has been hijacked by the Democratic leadership," said Majority Leader Bill Frist. "They have no convictions, they have no principles, they have no ideas," the Republican leader said.

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Schumer has just said that the Senate Intelligence Committee will begin Phase 2 of the investigation.

If so, this a victory for the Democrats - and as Schumer said - 'for America.'
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The senate has returned from closed session.

Frist is speaking on the floor now. Schumer apparently was correct. Before they return to regular legislative business (budget reconciliation - or, as the Repubs call it, debt reduction) scheduling for the second phase of the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation will occur.
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