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Old 10-25-05, 11:44 AM
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Why We're Touring the Clinton Library

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Article...e.asp?ID=19960

By Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 25, 2005


Like far too many women in this country, all three of us have experienced the crime of sexual assault and the violation of sexual harassment by men in powerful positions. Each of us has battled with the shame, humiliation, and fear of coming forward to report the assault. Each of us has worried about how this sexual harassment and assault will affect our careers. Two of us, however, suffered this kind of experience at the hands of a United States president.

That president has never apologized for his vicious behavior. That president and his wife orchestrated frightening, retaliatory intimidation tactics against us for daring to tell the truth about the assaults against us. That president and his wife are held in high esteem by world leaders and much of the American public. And that presidentís wife now seeks to become president herself. Because of this, Bill and Hillary Clinton continue to teach important lessons to victims and perpetrators of violence against women in this country.



Bill and Hillary Clinton are teaching rape and sexual harassment victims that if your assailant is popular and politically powerful, you will be punished more for daring to report the assault than for keeping silent. They are teaching perpetrators of violence against women that as long as you are pro-abortion enough to have the political support of the National Organization for Women, any crimes you commit against women in your ďpersonal lifeĒ will be overlooked.



When we announced that we are touring the Clinton Library in Little Rock, Arkansas, this Wednesday, we were asked by friends, family, the press, and the public: Why do you keep dragging this issue up? Why canít you just let it go? The Clinton Library is a multi-million dollar monument to the legacy of our forty-second president, but part of that legacy is being erased. Part of the true Clinton legacy is the cruel abuse that he and his inner circle committed against us. If we let it go, what does that say to the thousands of women victimized by sexual harassment and assault? Unless we have the courage to ask the American people to hold the Clintons accountable for their abuses against us, we are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. The problem of abuse against women is far too serious for us to sit quietly by while Bill and Hillary Clinton whitewash their reputations and escape all consequences for their actions.



Harassment and assault must be denounced no matter the status of victim or perpetrator. But harassment and assault committed by our leaders must be censored even more vigorously because these luminaries set the standards for acceptable behavior in our society. Bill Clintonís sexual assaults against us, and Hillary Clintonís active participation in persuading America that those assaults donít matter, represent a breach of the trust we should place in our leaders. This is not a political vendetta on our part. The two of us assaulted by Bill Clinton were political supporters of the Clintons until Bill Clinton attacked us. This is about the truth, and the sad truth is that the Clintons have exhibited such callous treatment of women that they do not deserve our respect or our votes. Whether or not you agree with the Clintonsí political positions, there are certainly politicians out there who hold similar positions but who actually treat women with dignity and respect. Itís time for us to take abuse against women seriously, and that requires that we demand proper treatment of women from those in positions of power.



Our stories are on record, in painful detail. The Clintons have never even bothered to present any reasons why you should believe their denials and evasions regarding our accusations. They prefer to hope that we will let it go, and that all of us will move on and forget about their despicable behavior. We will not let it go. For the sake of women everywhere whose lives are torn apart after being assaulted by powerful men, we will continue to press the Clintons to face up to the damage they have caused.
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I don't think i'd tour a museum in honor of someone who raped me. That's just me.
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Old 10-25-05, 12:36 PM
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Maybe they are going to write a book.

They should be thanked again and again however for politically emasculating the liberal feminist movement in this country.
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Originally Posted by bhk
They should be thanked again and again however for politically emasculating the liberal feminist movement in this country.
If the liberal feminist movement hadn't shown itself to be so duplicitous due to their monomaniacal focus on abortion rights above all other issues then they wouldn't have been so deserving of that political emasculation.
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If the liberal feminist movement hadn't shown itself to be so duplicitous due to their monomaniacal focus on abortion rights above all other issues then they wouldn't have been so deserving of that political emasculation.
You don't believe abortion is one of the (if not THE) most important feminist issue?
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You don't believe abortion is one of the (if not THE) most important feminist issue?
Nope.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
You don't believe abortion is one of the (if not THE) most important feminist issue?
Go back and re-read what I wrote. I absolutely believe it to be their core issue, to the exclusion of all others.
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Neither do I.

I believe that to the radical feminist element it may be. But I believe that feminists are more interested in equal pay and economic stuff. BTW: I'm not talking about NOW. I don't think that organization is representative of feminists.
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Nope.
Choice over your own circumstances is vital to true equality. Men have no such concerns.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Go back and re-read what I wrote. I absolutely believe it to be their core issue, to the exclusion of all others.
Because everything stems from it, I suppose. But I get your point.
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Choice over your own circumstances is vital to true equality. Men have no such concerns.
Hogwash!* copyright classicman2

Choice can also begin before nakedness. Both have the CHOICE to not sleep together unprotected.

I'm for equality with men - which as I've said before goes both ways. I don't want to be ABOVE men. (Which is what CHOICE as defined right now means). A man has no say in the abortion or in the woman's choice to go ahead. If she goes ahead he is duty bound for 18 years to support her. It's all in her power, which puts her above the man.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
You don't believe abortion is one of the (if not THE) most important feminist issue?

To some of them yes. Given how devisive of an issue it is though it occupies an unproportional part of the overall "effort" IMHO. I believe you'll find more unity overall for things like job/pay equality.
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My wife used to subscribe to <i>Ms</i> magazine. Nearly every issue had a cover story on how Republicans were going to take away abortion rights, repeal <i>Roe v Wade</i>, etc. It's the core issue, at least in terms of selling magazines and getting people to contribute money to political campaigns and PACs.
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Originally Posted by classicman2
Neither do I.

I believe that to the radical feminist element it may be. But I believe that feminists are more interested in equal pay and economic stuff. BTW: I'm not talking about NOW. I don't think that organization is representative of feminists.
As a feminist, you are wrong. NOW is the feminist movement in popular culture.

When was the last time you heard any feminist come to the aid of a conservative woman?

I became a feminist because of what I thought it meant to be one. It isn't that at all. It isn't about equal rights.
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
As a feminist, you are wrong. NOW is the feminist movement in popular culture.

When was the last time you heard any feminist come to the aid of a conservative woman?

I became a feminist because of what I thought it meant to be one. It isn't that at all. It isn't about equal rights.
Preach it, sister!

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Maybe they are going to write a book.
I'm sure the guys who made up the Swiftie's book can help them.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Preach it, sister!

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Originally Posted by nemein
To some of them yes. Given how devisive of an issue it is though it occupies an unproportional part of the overall "effort" IMHO. I believe you'll find more unity overall for things like job/pay equality.
It's kind of hard to be equal in the workplace if you are forced to carry a pregnancy to term.

I think the right to control what grows in your womb trumps how much money you might make. If the governemnt can tell you what you must do with your insides then what rights do you have at all?

Until the law can also force any man that impregnates a woman to give up his job, his schooling, his aspirations then I don't see how women can be equal with illegal abortion.
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barring the rape and health of the woman issue, alot can be said for simply saying "no" before the clothes come off. . . but of course that would entail restraint.

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I'm sure the guys who made up the Swiftie's book can help them.
You mean the one which caused Frenchie to ahem "revise" his diary?
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It's kind of hard to be equal in the workplace if you are forced to carry a pregnancy to term.
Are you saying that women can't help spreading their legs?
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
It's kind of hard to be equal in the workplace if you are forced to carry a pregnancy to term.

I think the right to control what grows in your womb trumps how much money you might make. If the governemnt can tell you what you must do with your insides then what rights do you have at all?

Until the law can also force any man that impregnates a woman to give up his job, his schooling, his aspirations then I don't see how women can be equal with illegal abortion.

2 things I want to say in a nonconfronting manner....

1) If the government can tell you what you must do with your insides, the next thing you will know, some drugs will be illegal.

2) Until men have the right to say that they don't want the pregnancy and can be absolved from child support, you will never have equal rights.
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Originally Posted by Chaos
barring the rape and health of the woman issue, alot can be said for simply saying "no" before the clothes come off. . . but of course that would entail restraint.
And what about men? Do they not have restraint? Or is just women that are expected by society to be chaste?

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Are you saying that women can't help spreading their legs?
Can men help it?

It's funny how people will insist that abortion should not be important to feminists and then read the sexist comments that come from those who oppose abortion.

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2) Until men have the right to say that they don't want the pregnancy and can be absolved from child support, you will never have equal rights.
See the quotes above about just saying using restaint.

But seriously, do you really think carrying a pregnancy to term, childbirth, and raising an infant is the equivalent of writing a check every month? If that was the case, I would have started my family a long time ago.

My son is 14 months old and he is the center of my world, he has been since I was pregnant with him. Everything in my life is now for him. It is hard but worth it because I want to be a good mother to him. I cannot imagine asking an unwilling person to make the kind of sacrifices necessary to bring a child into the world.
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
See the quotes above about just saying using restaint.

But seriously, do you really think carrying a pregnancy to term, childbirth, and raising an infant is the equivalent of writing a check every month? If that was the case, I would have started my family a long time ago.

My son is 14 months old and he is the center of my world, he has been since I was pregnant with him. Everything in my life is now for him. It is hard but worth it because I want to be a good mother to him. I cannot imagine asking an unwilling person to make the kind of sacrifices necessary to bring a child into the world.
The law sees money as compensation for things that you can't put a price on.

All I am saying is that if you want to be for equality, it hardly stands to also say that the father should not have an equal say (or any). If you want independance and equality, the decision to carry a baby to term should rest on the woman financially if the father does not accept that decision.

Otherwise, you are really wanting "equality" when it is convenient, but still want laws to protect you from "the man," so to speak.

And as much as you can't see putting that burden on an unwilling woman, you seem to be able to put it on the man financially. That's not equality.
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