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WMD attack on US likely soon (nuclear threat #1,003,476)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1101615867007

An al-Qaida attack on the US with non-conventional weapons is virtually "inevitable," and the organization is likely "tying up the knots" for such an attack, Yossef Bodansky, former director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday.

"All of the warnings we have today indicate that a major strike – something more horrible than anything we've seen before – is all but inevitable," he said.

Bodansky, here for the second annual Jerusalem Summit, an international gathering of conservative thinkers, added that "the primary option" for the next al-Qaida attack on US soil would be one that would use weapons of mass destruction.

"I do not have a crystal ball, but this is what all the available evidence tells us, we will have a bang," Bodansky said.

He said that al-Qaida has not carried out a second major attack on the US until now for internal psychological and ideological reasons, but after the reelection of President George W. Bush, it has gotten "the green light" to do so from leading Islamic religious luminaries, as well as from "the elites of the Arab world."

According to Bodansky's reading of Osama bin Laden's mind-set, after the elaborate attacks of 9/11 there was no need for the "bin Ladens of the world" to carry out a second major attack in the US, both because the target audience of the attacks – the Arab and Islamic world – had gotten the message that America could be penetrated, and because a second attack would necessarily have to be more grandiose.

Following the attacks and the US-led war on terror, a debate started within the operational arm of the organization over the potential use of weapons of mass destruction, Bodansky said.

If, in pre-9/11 days, the theme used by bin Laden was that perpetual confrontation and jihad against the US was the only way to protect Islam, the argument now used is the ability to punish American society, Bodansky said.

"Just as the West was challenging the quintessence of Islam by means of the globalization era, there was a parallel need by Islamic extremists to strike at – and hurt – the core of American society, this time with weapons of mass destruction," Bodansky said.

A subsequent theological debate emerged within the organization, and its supporters in the Arab world, he said, over whether the mass killing of innocents is permissible.

While bin Laden and his associates argued that by virtue of their participation in US democracy, US citizens were enabling their rulers to fight, other Islamic luminaries contended that this does not permit such massive attacks, Bodansky said. The reelection of Bush in November, he said, was viewed by bin Laden and his cohorts as a decisive answer to this deliberation, with Americans now "choosing" to be the enemies of Islam. In bin Laden's mind-set, he said, the stage was set for a non-conventional attack.

Bodansky said that while there may still be some vestiges of debate and doubt within Islamic circles, he believes that planing for such an attack is finished. "They got the kosher stamp from the Islamic world to use nuclear weapons," he said.

Moreover, Bodansky said that America is losing the war against terrorism, noting the number of recruits bin Laden is able to count on, as his call to arms gains widespread support throughout the Muslim world.

In the pre-9/11 world, Bodansky said, jihadists could count on 250,000 individuals trained and willing to die, and 2.5 million–5 million people willing to help them in one way or another. He cited intelligence estimates from this summer that suggest that as many as 500,000-750,000 people are willing and trained to die, 10 million are willing to actively support them, short of killing, while another 50 million are willing to support such a movement financially.

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The bolded part is for a reason. I think maybe 7-10% of this figure are ready to die. The simple proof is that we have not had a major attack on US soil for over 3 years. If everyone is as threatening and dangerous as "terrorist experts" say, then why the feet-dragging? US borders would be overflowing with Muslim terrorists, not Mexicans.

Most terrorists like to fight on their own ground. This is because they don't know anything else. They are afraid of fighting in unfamiliar territory (maybe someday I will be proven wrong, but the low number of incidents and low number of groups trying to initiate another assault in the US are very low).

And another reason, which we have debated before, is that some of these terrorists who come over here to do damage, actually begin to like the American lifestyle.

Bodansky and others seem to think OBL (if alive) needed some kind of "seal of approval" before a super duper attack. This is just nonsense and completely absurd. OBL, al-Zawahiri, and Al Zarqawi, can initiate whatever violence they want, without support.

Why?

Because they already have the support. Let's look back at when 9/11 happened. Saudi Arabia said how sorry they were this tragedy happened to our faces, but only days later, had televised terrorist fundraising for the war against America and Israel.

And let's entertain the thought of Bodansky's assumption (which parallel's the former CIA writer in this area too I believe).

Let's suppose a nuclear weapon is detonated. Now, who the hell is going to stand up in the Middle East or anywhere in the world, and say, "Hey guys! Over here! I gave Mr. Terrorist the approval from my people to nuke New York City. Yeah, I know, it's a pain in the ass, but it couldn't have happened unless myself and others gave Mr. Terrorist the approval. Soooo, anyway, just an FYI."

Please. That's just retarded. No country is going to step forward and say they approved such a mission.

And now let's suppose a terrorist group detonates a nuclear weapon on US soil anyway, without any approval. Well, what will happen? Absolutely nothing, except for the same response from Middle Eastern countries (and others) when 9/11 happened.

As a side note, read the latest Al Zawahiri statements. They are very much resembling "OBL's" statements, which confirms my statements that OBL is in fact, dead, and someone else wrote those statements.

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What are the Vegas odds on this? I need to make a fast buck or two.
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Remember.. another 100% chance of another 9/11 scale attack on the United States within a year!! That's the warning we got after the origional 9/11 attack.. never happened. These guys don't know jack, and Al Queda's got nothin'.
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Eh I don't know. I doubt it would be easy for them to pull off something of that scale. And like the good General said, most people were 100% certain we'd have another 9/11 type attack in the months following 9/11.
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I heard the plan this time is to go underwater and blow up the stilts that support North America, causing it to crash into the sea.

First glimpse <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/26/160951.shtml">here</a>
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I heard the plan this time is to go underwater and blow up the stilts that support North America, causing it to crash into the sea.
I heard it was to get all of the leaders of the world together for a massive peace conference, with the assistance of the Film Actors' Guild, and then to blow up key cities while the leaders were away.

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I heard it was to get all of the leaders of the world together for a massive peace conference, with the assistance of the Film Actors' Guild, and then to blow up key cities while the leaders were away.

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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
I heard the plan this time is to go underwater and blow up the stilts that support North America, causing it to crash into the sea.

First glimpse <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/26/160951.shtml">here</a>
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Just wanted to post and say that I love the phrase "Film Actors Guild" when it refers to politically active celebreties.

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