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U.S. signs agreement targeting methane

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/reso...t_x.htm?csp=34
U.S. signs agreement targeting methane
WASHINGTON (AP) The United States signed an agreement Tuesday with 13 other nations that calls for investing up to $53 million in companies that will profitably control emissions of methane, a greenhouse gas.

Emissions of methane, mainly from landfills, are ranked second behind carbon dioxide emissions among industrial gases scientists blame for warming the earth's climate. (Related: Understanding climate change science)

"Today we're planting a seed," Mike Leavitt, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, told representatives of the countries at a ceremony co-sponsored by the American Petroleum Institute and the National Mining Association. "Together we will reap an environmental and economic harvest."

The 13 other countries signing the agreement were Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Britain, China, Colombia, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, Russia and Ukraine

Bush must have still been celebrating and they got one past him
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they are going to kill all the cows and make PETA so happy
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First the Shark stuff and now this?

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First the Shark stuff and now this?

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I guess it's true what they say about 2nd term Presidents being more extreme because they aren't worried about reelection
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Obviously, no methane is released by petroleum products.
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Close down all the Taco Bells in the US, and your Methane woes decrease by 36.94%.
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Re: U.S. signs agreement targeting methane

Originally posted by nemein
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Bush must have still been celebrating and they got one past him
Actually, if you install a collection system, the methane can be burned as fuel. It is relatively low grade as what is collected is about half methane, half CO2, so the energy content is about half that of natural gas. Burning the methan releases one molecule of CO2 instead of the molecule of methane, but that's good as:
(1) we get the energy
(2) the methane is a 26x stronger greenhouse gas than CO2.

Collecting the methane and burning for useful energy makes scientific sense. The problem is how to keep the costs down so it makes economic sense. Collecting and using the methane from manure digesters at animal feed lots also reduces pollution and the energy savings can potentially pay off the cost of the system.

It will never produce enough to replace a lot of fossil fuel, but some energy plus a lot of pollution avoidance makes it well worth considering. Much more sense than the usual "do without, drive an econo-box" message from environmentalists
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According to this website, human caused methane contributes a whopping total of .066% of greenhouse gases (water vapor included):

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF...ouse_data.html

It's obvious WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!
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Originally posted by Myster X
genocide??
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Originally posted by movielib
It's obvious WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!
Why do you think we went to Iraq? Wake up people, it's an environmental war!
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Originally posted by movielib
According to this website, human caused methane contributes a whopping total of .066% of greenhouse gases (water vapor included):

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF...ouse_data.html

It's obvious WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!
Car guys know the answer: EGR Valves (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) If you fart, the EGR valve forces you and you alone to inhale it. Either you reburn it, or you learn not to let it. It works for cars, it will work for cows, and probably, humans.
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