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Old 11-07-04, 11:08 AM
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Clinton tells Dems to buck up

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Clinton Tells Democrats to Work on Image

Fri Nov 5, 5:17 PM ET Elections - AP


By SAM DOLNICK, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - Former President Clinton (news - web sites) has a message for Democrats inconsolable after President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election: Buck up. It's not that bad. You need to improve your image.

"This election presents a great opportunity for President Bush and a great opportunity for Democrats, and the two are not necessarily in conflict," Clinton said in his first public remarks since Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites)'s defeat on Tuesday.

The last two-term Democratic president said the party needs to rework its image and it would be "a mistake for our party to sit around and ... whine about this and that or the other thing."

Just weeks after major heart surgery, Clinton joined Kerry at a campaign appearance in Philadelphia last week and made appearances on the Democrat's behalf in several states, including Florida, New Mexico and Arkansas.

In his speech Friday to the Urban Land Institute, Clinton attributed Kerry's loss to the Democrats' failure to counter how Republicans portrayed them to rural and small-town voters.

"If we let people believe that our party doesn't believe in faith and family, doesn't believe in work and freedom, that's our fault," he said.

Democrats "need a clear national message and they have to do this without one big advantage the Republicans have, which is they won't have a theological message that basically paints the other guy as evil."

Clinton gave Bush and the Republicans credit for the election victory.

"The Republicans had a clear message, a good messenger, great organization and great strategy," he said. "The Republicans did a better job of turning out those who were already registered who hadn't voted" as well as bringing out their base.

Clinton said Bush should use his second four years to move the United States toward an economy less dependent on foreign oil, a move that would shift the balance of power in the Middle East.

Clinton also said a peace agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians would take enormous steam out of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism worldwide, Clinton said.
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Old 11-07-04, 11:26 AM
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Re: Clinton tells Dems to buck up

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Clinton said Bush should use his second four years to move the United States toward an economy less dependent on foreign oil, a move that would shift the balance of power in the Middle East.
He then paused before adding, "But seriously, folks...."
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Oh, I thought this was about the recent election and you had made a typo in "buck".
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Old 11-07-04, 05:53 PM
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Clinton said Bush should use his second four years to move the United States toward an economy less dependent on foreign oil, a move that would shift the balance of power in the Middle East.
He then appealed to the Democratic base by clarifying that there should be no actual drilling done anywhere to help achieve this goal.



Seriously, Good for Bill. People thought in '92 that he was a sacrificial lamb because he didn't always take the straight Democratic line, applauded his opponents for things, etc. But he has always been an positive person in terms of his outlook, and that helps win elections. The ABB mentality was a loser from day one, but the Democrats couldn't figure that out, and never defined a positive message.

The next democratic president doesn't have to hold beliefs any different than Kerry, he just has to present those ideas and himself a lot more postively.
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The next democratic president doesn't have to hold beliefs any different than Kerry, he just has to present those ideas and himself a lot more postively.
That's what you Repubs would like the Democrats to think.
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Re: Re: Clinton tells Dems to buck up

Originally posted by kvrdave
He then appealed to the Democratic base by clarifying that there should be no actual drilling done anywhere to help achieve this goal.


Seriously, Good for Bill. People thought in '92 that he was a sacrificial lamb because he didn't always take the straight Democratic line, applauded his opponents for things, etc. But he has always been an positive person in terms of his outlook, and that helps win elections.
True dat. Bill always was a fairly classy act.

The next democratic president doesn't have to hold beliefs any different than Kerry (so long as he/she doesn't have an extensive pre-election voting record that demonstrates it), he just has to present those ideas and himself a lot more postively.
Fixed.
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That's what you Repubs would like the Democrats to think.
Well just give away the plan, why dontcha . . .
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Good for Clinton. I wish I would hear a lot more of this from the Dems instead of the childish whining many seem compelled to share.
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