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Old 11-06-04, 01:35 PM
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Where can I find the military vote?

I googled but can't seem to find the results of the military vote.

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Old 11-06-04, 01:39 PM
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i'm guessing you'd have to find a poll since with secret ballots you can't really tell who they voted for
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Old 11-06-04, 01:42 PM
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It's actually illegal to ask military people who they voted for in a poll type situation.

That's why they always ask about candidate "favorability" instead.

The military voted about 75% for Bush, and about 18% for Kerry, it looks like, based on some poll averages of the "favorability" question.
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why is it illegal to poll them?
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Old 11-06-04, 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Venusian
why is it illegal to poll them?
cause they have M-16s
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Old 11-06-04, 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Venusian
why is it illegal to poll them?
Don't ask, don't tell.
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Old 11-06-04, 05:35 PM
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I believe it has something to do w/ the fact the President sits at the top of the chain of command.
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Old 11-06-04, 05:38 PM
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my unofficial poll of my military friends has all of my airforce friends voting for Bush and one army guy voting for Nader
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Old 11-06-04, 05:45 PM
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My discussions with military peeps lead me to think that most of them wouldn't vote for a democrat simply because they would cut military funding and shrink the size of the military which would hurt them in their pockets and threaten their job.
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When I was in the army, most people I knew were democrats. Many of my friends even voted for Dukakis, which is kind of remarkable considering how badly he lost.
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Old 11-07-04, 02:02 AM
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It seems to me that Bush is doing a fine job of shrinking the military himself. Only it's their lives they are losing, not their jobs.
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Old 11-07-04, 02:08 AM
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If you die, you lose your job too. At least, I hope it's that way, or no wonder our country is in debt.
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Old 11-07-04, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Timmio
It seems to me that Bush is doing a fine job of shrinking the military himself. Only it's their lives they are losing, not their jobs.
How many have died?

How many are lost each year through simple attritition?

Oh, I guess you were trying to make some point - pardon me.
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Old 11-07-04, 12:02 PM
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1,132 have died, so far. About 8,150 wounded. I think the point he was making was that Bush had put the military in a bad spot. He's right.

I'd observe that for the professional military there's an upside to war; after all, this is what they have been training to do during their working lives. They also get tested in the real world of war, and get combat experience and awards that help with promotions. Of course, if the force is expanding and you're taking casualties promotion comes much more quickly too.

The downside sometimes takes a while to sink in, then they professionals start leaving and the recruits become fewer and less qualified.

The military establishment is a huge asset. We don't need to waste it in unnecessary and misguided wars.
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Old 11-08-04, 12:51 AM
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Here is something I just keep asking myself, if this Iraq war is so unnecessary and misguided, why do the troops fighting in it vote so overwhelming for the guy who sent them to fight? It can't all be about job security. Is a steady job really worth getting shot at in an unnecessary war?
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Old 11-08-04, 06:25 AM
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We don't need to waste it in unnecessary and misguided wars.
Fortunately this isn't one.
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The military establishment is a huge asset. We don't need to waste it in unnecessary and misguided wars.
That's the rub.

Who determines what is an unnecesary and misguided war?
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Originally posted by nemein
Fortunately this isn't one.
Thus beginith the umteenth Iraq war discussion.
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Old 11-08-04, 08:27 AM
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Big doings going on Iraq even as we speak.
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Originally posted by classicman2
Big doings going on Iraq even as we speak.
Yes, I think it deserves it's own thread.

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Georgia outside Atlanta is a deeply "red" state. We have two "army towns." Hinesville and Liberty County are the home of Fort Stewart and the 3rd Infantry Division. Columbus and Muscogee County are the home of the main infantry and ariborne training establishments. Kerry carried both counties.
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Originally posted by taa455
Here is something I just keep asking myself, if this Iraq war is so unnecessary and misguided, why do the troops fighting in it vote so overwhelming for the guy who sent them to fight?
And you know this...how?
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Originally posted by Mammal
Georgia outside Atlanta is a deeply "red" state. We have two "army towns." Hinesville and Liberty County are the home of Fort Stewart and the 3rd Infantry Division. Columbus and Muscogee County are the home of the main infantry and ariborne training establishments. Kerry carried both counties.
but couldn't most of the army people be registered in their home states? especially considering Liberty county had about 12,000 votes cast and ft. stewart itself houses 16,000 soldiers? part of ft. stewart is located in Bryan county..which went to Bush

i think columbus is in muscogee county...that could definietly skew those results.


but i dont know much about the army stuff...i do know about airforce. check out the results of houston county (where RAFB is located)
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Originally posted by Groucho
And you know this...how?
the surveys?
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I wouldn't expect an Air Force base to vote like an Army or Marine base
would. Flying over the soup is different from being in it. I have no idea how militay families voted...maybe there's be some polls...but I don't think the enthusiasm of the participants in the Iraq adventure is as some claim. It doesn't matter much, 'cause orders have to be obeyed.
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