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Report: Troops Watched Al-Qaqaa Looting

Old 11-04-04, 06:23 PM
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Report: Troops Watched Al-Qaqaa Looting

LOS ANGELES - Explosives were looted from the Al-Qaqaa ammunitions site in Iraq (news - web sites) while outnumbered U.S. soldiers assigned to guard the materials watched helplessly, soldiers told the Los Angeles Times.


About a dozen U.S. troops were guarding the sprawling facility in the weeks after the April 2003 fall of Baghdad when Iraqi looters raided the site, the newspaper quoted a group of unidentified soldiers as saying. U.S. Army reservists and National Guardsmen witnessed the looting and some soldiers sent messages to commanders in Baghdad requesting help, but received no reply, they said.


"It was complete chaos. It was looting like L.A. during the Rodney King riots," one officer said.
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And now the evidence against Saddam is missing. So they not only watched explosives fall into the hands of people trying to kill them, but also watched at evidence against Saddam was looted so that the person they were fighting to remove can be set free.

Yeah, this is a great fucking war.
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Nicely timed news release, eh?
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I don't believe it. I officially call shinanigans! - common sense kills this story.
Soldiers watching people loot explosives?

Does this even make sense?

"outnumbered U.S. soldiers assigned to guard the materials watched helplessly"
Are we really to believe the order was to guard this stuff, but if you get outnumbered don't shoot at anyone? What exactly was the point then?

a group of unidentified soldiers as saying
Indeed.

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Old 11-04-04, 06:36 PM
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bfrank, I posted the L.A. Times article in the "Missing Munitions" thread.
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Originally posted by joshd2012
Yeah, this is a great fucking war.
There is one thing that could make it worse. Saddam standing for President from his jail cell and winning.

This would be the real pisser, and not something entirely impossible.

As for the story, there seem to be far too many holes for it to be entirely accurate. There has to me more to it than just that.

While stuff may have dissappeared (and even gone to Al-Queda), I can't see any group of American soldiers sitting by and letting them simply take it away without trying to put up some sort of resistance.
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Originally posted by joshd2012
And now the evidence against Saddam is missing. So they not only watched explosives fall into the hands of people trying to kill them, but also watched at evidence against Saddam was looted so that the person they were fighting to remove can be set free.

Yeah, this is a great fucking war.
yes, the other 99.9% of the explosives don't count as evidence.

If this even proves to be true.
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I don't believe this at all. 3 Reasons...1) it comes out right after the Bush re-election 2) its the LA Time 3) unidentified soldiers as the source for the story
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Evidence Lost:

Human Rights Watch says it is likely crucial evidence for the trials of Saddam Hussein and other former Iraqi officials has been lost or tainted.

US-led coalition forces failed to secure relevant sites after last year's invasion of Iraq, the group says.

They failed to prevent people from looting thousands of official documents from government buildings.

The US-based human rights organisation has published a 41-page report entitled Iraq: the State of the Evidence.

Coalition forces also failed to stop relatives of some of the many thousands of people who disappeared during Saddam Hussein's rule from digging up remains found at some mass grave sites, the organisation says.

Human Rights Watch says the availability of solid documentary and forensic evidence will be a key to the success of any trials in Iraq, corroborating and providing extra weight to witness testimonies.

But it says it is likely some evidence has been tainted or lost because of inaction or negligence by US-led coalition forces.

Human Rights Watch alleges that the coalition's failure to prevent or minimise the looting and destruction of government buildings in April 2003 led to the widespread removal of state archives, which are now virtually impossible to trace.

The coalition subsequently failed to put in place expertise and assistance needed to ensure proper classification and exhumation procedures.

Crucial evidence necessary for future trials was never collected and may have been irreparably damaged

In some areas, it says, coalition soldiers watched as villagers or families of people who disappeared during Saddam Hussein's rule dug up remains at mass grave sites.

The unprofessional manner in which the graves were unearthed, says the group, made it impossible for many relatives to identify the remains, or to keep those remains intact and separate.

Crucial evidence necessary for future trials was never collected and may have been irreparably damaged.

Human Rights Watch urges Iraq's interim government to set up a join Iraqi and international commission for missing persons to establish effective procedures for protecting mass graves and conducting exhumations, and a similar body to oversee the handling of documents of the former government.
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bfrank, I posted the L.A. Times article in the "Missing Munitions" thread.
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