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Old 11-03-04, 12:05 PM
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Biggest News From 2004 Elections

The overwhelming success of the Republicans in the legislature.

No sitting president has presided over an increase in an existing same party majority in the legislature since 1900. While some of the results are skewed by the dems failure to put forward strong candidates in races that COULD have gone their way, I think this result, more than the popular vote tally, suggests that the Republicans have a general mandate from everyone outside the liberal NE and WC.

If the Republicans get to 55 Senators, this is a landslide. Just getting to 54 is remarkable.

What do you think is the biggest news for this election??
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Old 11-03-04, 12:17 PM
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Dan Rather told me that there was no mandate, despite Clinton's mandate with less than 50% of the vote, so I hope you can deal with being wrong.


It is amazing, however.
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Daschle's defeat. At least, that's the biggest news for me. I'd put Vitter's victory and the Republican gains in Texas up there too.
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Yes, Congress is the biggest surprise for me.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Daschle's defeat. At least, that's the biggest news for me. I'd put Vitter's victory and the Republican gains in Texas up there too.
I agree with Vitter being a big story. First Republican Senator from LA and no run-off.... Just amazing. The Texas thing was NOT surprising. Instead it was WELL PLANNED!

As for Daschle... what an asshat. He killed (already on life-support at the time) his own campaign with the Homestead Exemption filing....
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Not many surprises to me.
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Originally posted by wlmowery
I agree with Vitter being a big story. First Republican Senator from LA and no run-off.... Just amazing. The Texas thing was NOT surprising. Instead it was WELL PLANNED!

As for Daschle... what an asshat. He killed (already on life-support at the time) his own campaign with the Homestead Exemption filing....
Sure, but you didn't say biggest surprise.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:24 PM
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I think that the biggest news item from this election are the gay marriage referendums, and their results.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041103/D864CHC00.html

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Old 11-03-04, 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Iron Chef
I think that the biggest news item from this election are the gay marriage referendums, and their results.
Really? It didn't suprise me. What you really found out is that 3/4ths of America agree with the two parties candidates for President. When both parties agree on something, 75% of America agreeing is no big deal to me.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Iron Chef
I think that the biggest news item from this election are the gay marriage referendums, and their results.
Again, I don't consider this big news becuase it merely confirms what we knew going in, ie. that a majority of Americans in middle america are not ready to accept gay unions as a LEGAL right.
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Sure, but you didn't say biggest surprise.
Touche!

But if I knew it going in, it isn't really news to me.
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Daschle's defeat. At least, that's the biggest news for me. I'd put Vitter's victory and the Republican gains in Texas up there too.
I figured the <strike>redistricting</strike> gerrymandering that went on here in Texas would hurt the Democrats some, but frankly I'm shocked at just how bad it was. Good thing I'm already so cynical about government that this only reinforces my beliefs.
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Originally posted by Mordred
I figured the <strike>redistricting</strike> gerrymandering that went on here in Texas would hurt the Democrats some, but frankly I'm shocked at just how bad it was. Good thing I'm already so cynical about government that this only reinforces my beliefs.
Now you know why the Dems flew out of the state during the whole process. They knew they were going to get their clocks cleaned in Nov.
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Now you know why the Dems flew out of the state during the whole process. They knew they were going to get their clocks cleaned in Nov.
Personally, I think that was a dumbass move that didn't get them anything and made them look like babies. I'm not sure if voters more ignorant of the redistricting process remembered that yesterday though. I don't watch a lot of local media but I didn't see that being harped on at all in the past few months. That's probably why I was surprised by the result until I remembered the redistricting. I suppose maybe they were just resigned to defeat though.
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One other huge story of the election has to be the fact that the turnout was huge, but the Republican won. It says a lot for the Repub GOTV effort and just how well the race was run.
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Certainly the most disappointing thing for me was to see good Texas congressmen (Frost, Stenholm, etc.) lose their seats because of redistricting.

How anyone can see this as positive is a mystery to me.

Not really - I understand rank partisanship.
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Originally posted by classicman2
Certainly the most disappointing thing for me was to see good Texas congressmen (Frost, Stenholm, etc.) lose their seats because of redistricting.

How anyone can see this as positive is a mystery to me.

Not really - I understand rank partisanship.

Nothing rank about it. The better candidates, the better Representatives, won.
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Overwhelming victory in the Senate. I hope this teaches the RINOs in the Senate a lesson.
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Biggest new - Zogby is an asshat.

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We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state. Our predictions on many of the key battleground states like Ohio and Florida were within the margin of error. I thought we captured a trend, but apparently that result didnít materialize.

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Biggest new - Zogby is an asshat.
Fuck Zogby!

Oops...sorry, Pharoh.
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Fuck Zogby!

Oops...sorry, Pharoh.
Yeah, don't steel his thunder.

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