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Old 11-03-04, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by B5Erik
Rudy Giuliani
Rick Santorum
George Pataki
John McCain

Those are all solid possibilities for the Republicans - and Jeb Bush is a solid VP candidate - I don't think that the Republicans would have a problem with him in the #2 slot, but they don't want another Bush at the top of the ticket as there has been on 4 of the last 5 Presidential elections.

Rick Santorum? You've got to be kidding.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:26 PM
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Rick Santorum? You've got to be kidding.
Republicans never kid...and most of them think that Santorum is a moderate.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Pharoh
His voting record sure as the hell isn't moderate. And, correct me if I am wrong, but given your more America First stance, you would likely be shocked by the foreign policy of Mr. McCain.
You'll have to explain exactly what you mean by my American First stance as I don't know what to agree or rebut
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Old 11-03-04, 12:29 PM
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In my dreams Obama would run and win the presidency in 08, but then I wake up in the real world and face reality. A republican woman is more likey to become president before a black man will ever have a chance.
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Originally posted by Mordred
You'll have to explain exactly what you mean by my American First stance as I don't know what to agree or rebut

More of a paleoconservative philosophy, a much less interventionist philosophy. Nothing negative intended.
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Originally posted by Michael Ballack
In my dreams Obama would run and win the presidency in 08, but then I wake up in the real world and face reality. A republican woman is more likey to become president before a black man will ever have a chance.

A black man will be president before a woman, at least in my opinion. It just won't be an extreme liberal like Mr. Obama.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:38 PM
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Obama has as much chance of winning the Presidency as Rick Santorum.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Pharoh
A black man will be president before a woman, at least in my opinion. It just won't be an extreme liberal like Mr. Obama.
I disagree.

A woman is 'acceptable' (as long as she's a Republican ) with the majority of folks in the red states. I don't believe a black man is.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by classicman2
I disagree.

A woman is 'acceptable' (as long as she's a Republican ) with the majority of folks in the red states. I don't believe a black man is.

As long as he would be a Republican, I think this would be a wash.
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Old 11-03-04, 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Pharoh
More of a paleoconservative philosophy, a much less interventionist philosophy. Nothing negative intended.
Ah. Well you're wrong... I'm somewhere in between the two on my political beliefs. I'm certainly not an isolationist nor a neo-conservative. I believe Bush did a good job as president up until the war in Iraq.

I'm currently a horribly cynical voter who feels that John McCain, whom I don't always agree with either, is one of the few politicians worthy of my trust. I suppose that where you see opportunism, I see candor. And while I'm not sure I really care anymore, I think McCain is a good human being in general.
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Originally posted by Mordred
Ah. Well you're wrong... I'm somewhere in between the two on my political beliefs. I'm certainly not an isolationist nor a neo-conservative. I believe Bush did a good job as president up until the war in Iraq.

I'm currently a horribly cynical voter who feels that John McCain, whom I don't always agree with either, is one of the few politicians worthy of my trust. I suppose that where you see opportunism, I see candor. And while I'm not sure I really care anymore, I think McCain is a good human being in general.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.
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Old 11-03-04, 01:03 PM
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Won't be either of these.


As in the other threads about this topic, I say look to the Governor mansions.

Originally posted by wendersfan
Clearly this is true. It amazes me that most people don't see this as obvious. Even I violated this just a few minutes ago, trumpeting the virtues of Evan Bayh.
Evan Bayh was governor of Indiana from 1992 - 2000. Given his experience at both the executive and legislative branches the dems would be smart to give him a very long look in 2008.

Or...did you mean that a sitting governor has a better chance? Maybe I'm not following you.

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Old 11-03-04, 01:19 PM
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Sam is a little long-in-the tooth, isn't he?
Nunn was born 9/8/38. That would make him 70 in 2008, one year older than Reagan was in 1981. Yeah, maybe his best years are behind him.

This also works against Elizabeth Dole, who will turn 72 in 2008.
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Originally posted by mjlukich
Evan Bayh was governor of Indiana from 1992 - 2000. Given his experience at both the executive and legislative branches the dems would be smart to give him a very long look in 2008.

Or...did you mean that a sitting governor has a better chance? Maybe I'm not following you.
I meant a sitting governor. Sitting senators (with two exceptions) don't get elected President. Since Bayh's a moderate he might get a pass, but I doubt it. Of course, with the current Democratic Party, he'll never get the nomination.
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Originally posted by kenbuzz
Nunn was born 9/8/38. That would make him 70 in 2008, one year older than Reagan was in 1981. Yeah, maybe his best years are behind him.

This also works against Elizabeth Dole, who will turn 72 in 2008.
I knew Nunn was about my age.

I consider myself a little long-in-the-tooth at times.
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Rice and Giuliani
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Old 11-03-04, 02:56 PM
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McCain / Powell
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McCain / Powell
Only if there's some sort of revolt in the Republican Party I think.
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McCain / Powell
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Only if there's some sort of revolt in the Republican Party I think.
And only if both men change their minds.
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No pro-abortion presidential candidate can receive the Republican nomination.

No anti-abortion presidential candidate can receive the Democratic nomination.
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Will AHnald run in '08

I say yes but he won't win the primary,

the law will be changed to allow nationalized Americans to run for Pres.
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no No and NO!
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Yes, yes, and yes. Anyone who says differently is a moran.



edit - sorry, didn't see your post.
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Old 11-03-04, 03:50 PM
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Nope. I don't see it happening.
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Old 11-03-04, 03:52 PM
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Will we see Hillary Clinton in 08

Well with Kerry out of the way now, Hillary has a chance to run in 08. I for one hope she does. This country needs to get a Clinton back into the White House. The Clintons in my humble opinion did more good for this country then any other presidential family. Personally I never cared what went on in thier personal lives just as long as they did the country well. The Clintons did what no other democrats could do, united the Democratic party, balanced the budget, created a surplus, and had employers begging people to work for them just for starters. My guess is we will see a John McCain VS Hillary Clinton in 08.
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