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Why are people getting paid to collect voter registrations?

Old 10-19-04, 01:05 PM
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Why are people getting paid to collect voter registrations?

doesn't that just encourage fraud? like in this case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...istration_scam
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Re: Why are people getting paid to collect voter registrations?

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doesn't that just encourage fraud? like in this case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...istration_scam
well, he was arrested and charged with a felony
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I guess people really aren't as interested in their democracy as some would like to think. What's really going to be interesting is if this increase in registration translates into an increase in votes cast.
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yeah, and how many others did they miss?

if people want to vote, let them go register at the county office where there are officials who get paid to take their registration? or at the DMV, or library, etc. why pay people to go solicit registrations?
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Old 10-19-04, 01:19 PM
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Re: Why are people getting paid to collect voter registrations?

Originally posted by Venusian
doesn't that just encourage fraud? like in this case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...istration_scam
Yes. Yes, it does. Organizations that want to do this work should have to find volunteers to do it, not collect donations and hire drug addicts to do it on a piece-rate basis. They should also have a written code of conduct that the volunteers have to read and sign.
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So now you guys don't like a free market economy? I can't keep track of all the flip-flops from the right!
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Gee, help me out here. I wonder which party supporters were involved.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041019/D85QG8S80.html

DEFIANCE, Ohio (AP) - Elections officials knew something was wrong when they got voter registration cards for Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Michael Jordan and George Foreman.

They notified the Defiance County sheriff, who arrested Chad Staton on Monday on a felony charge of submitting phony voter registration forms. Investigators also were looking into allegations that he was paid with cocaine in exchange for his efforts.

Staton, 22, had fraudulently filled out more than 100 voter registration forms, Sheriff David Westrick said.

"Staton was to be paid for each registration form that he could get citizens to fill out," the sheriff said. "However, Staton himself filled out the registrations and returned them to the woman who hired him from Toledo."

Staton was charged with false registration and was released without bond pending arraignment.

No other charges had been filed in the case Monday, authorities said.

According to Westrick, the NAACP's National Voter Fund had submitted the false registrations to the elections board in Cleveland. George Forbes, Cleveland chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said Monday that the voter fund operates independently from his chapter.

Officers said they interviewed a Toledo woman who claimed that she had paid Staton with cocaine for the registrations. Officers said they obtained a search warrant and took voter registrations and drug paraphernalia from her home.

The woman claimed she had been recruited by a Cleveland man to obtain voter registrations, Westrick said.
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Originally posted by JasonF
So now you guys don't like a free market economy? I can't keep track of all the flip-flops from the right!
i dont think buying votes is considered part of the free market economy
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In Las Vegas, a company called Voter Outreach of America was accused by a former employee of registering people to vote and then either throwing out or destroying the forms of those registering as Democrats.
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Yes, it's bad to have paid voter registration folks running around for either side.
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Originally posted by Myster X
Gee, help me out here. I wonder which party supporters were involved.
Uh... either one? Both major parties have made the same (stupid) mistake and have had their workers making up ballot names. That's the natural result of this arrangement - regardless of which party sets it up.

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"Staton was to be paid for each registration form that he could get citizens to fill out," the sheriff said. "However, Staton himself filled out the registrations and returned them to the woman who hired him from Toledo."
You're really looking like a right-wing extremist by trying to characterize this solely as a problem with the DNC.

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Old 10-19-04, 04:12 PM
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That's the natural result of this arrangement - regardless of which party sets it up.
Which is precisely the reason for recommending against this arrangement. Unsupervised workers on piece rate who can fake the outcome they get paid for -- bad idea, very bad idea.
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Old 10-19-04, 04:32 PM
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Which is precisely the reason for recommending against this arrangement. Unsupervised workers on piece rate who can fake the outcome they get paid for -- bad idea, very bad idea.
Absolutely. Whoever decided to offer a per-ballot reward needs to be fired for complete incompetence.

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