Religion, Politics and World Events They make great dinner conversation, don't you think? plus Political Film

Colorado -kerry going for it??

Old 10-19-04, 11:45 AM
  #1  
Premium Member
Thread Starter
 
bfrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 20,623
Colorado -kerry going for it??

I got this email today-

Dear Supporter,

Last Friday, I told you about an important strategy meeting taking place over the weekend. Now I want to report back about how that meeting went and how your efforts made all the difference.

Towards the end of every presidential campaign, strategists like me crowd into small conference rooms and huddle around spreadsheets with polling data and financial reports. We argue about the best course of action in key battleground states and then we argue with the finance guy about if we can afford it. These meetings usually involve a series of tough decisions guided as much by cash shortages as they are by strategy.

The meeting we had this weekend was different. Time and time again when we decided on the best strategy to win a state and turned to the finance guy his answer was "go for it." It was "go for it" because of the contributions you made just last week.

You deserve some specifics: At one point during the meeting, talk turned to Colorado. Many pundits thought this state was in the win column for George Bush. But polls show this is not the case -- we can win Colorado. We decided that we should be aggressive here and once again the answer was "go for it." On the night of November 2, when Colorado is called for John Kerry, know it was because of you.

I just wanted to say "thank you" -- you continue to make the difference.

Let's get it done,

Michael Whouley
General Election Strategist
seems like everyone has Colorado at least +5 Bush????
bfrank is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 11:47 AM
  #2  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 122,915
I would think the DNC would not pump up Kerry so much but instead agressively campaign for 'yes' on the split-electoral vote ballot issue. If 'yes' wins (and it survives the inevitable legal challenge), that turns 0 EVs into 4.
Red Dog is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 11:51 AM
  #3  
Moderator
 
Groucho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 70,839
If they could get people in Bolder to put down the bong long enough to get out and vote, they might have a chance.
Groucho is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 11:54 AM
  #4  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 36,981
but if CO somehow goes Kerry and the Dems split-electoral vote ballot issue passes...and passes legal battles, then they just cost Kerry 4 votes
Venusian is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:01 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Madison, WI ("77 square miles surrounded by reality")
Posts: 30,005
Originally posted by Groucho
If they could get people in Bolder to put down the bong long enough to get out and vote, they might have a chance.
If this had been posted by anyone but Groucho (or Dork), I'd say something snide about "Bolder."
movielib is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:01 PM
  #6  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 122,915
Originally posted by Venusian
but if CO somehow goes Kerry and the Dems split-electoral vote ballot issue passes...and passes legal battles, then they just cost Kerry 4 votes

That ain't going to happen.
Red Dog is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:13 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Ruler
 
General Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21,422
Originally posted by Red Dog
That ain't going to happen
Agreed - here are the last 4 polls done in the state:

CNN/USAT/Gallup | 10/14-17 = Bush +6
Rcky Mtn News | 10/13-14 = Bush +5
SUSA | 10/5-10/7 = Bush +8
Mason-Dixon | 10/4-10/6 = Bush +9

Averages to Bush +7 .. that's pretty comfortable with only 2 weeks to go.
General Zod is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:27 PM
  #8  
DVD Talk Hero
 
JasonF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 39,519
Originally posted by movielib
If this had been posted by anyone but Groucho (or Dork), I'd say something snide about "Bolder."
Fixed!
JasonF is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:46 PM
  #9  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Madison, WI ("77 square miles surrounded by reality")
Posts: 30,005
Originally posted by JasonF
Fixed!
movielib is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 12:51 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk God
 
kvrdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 86,201
I think I got something similar about how I could make Washington go for Bush

I think it is just to keep us interested.
kvrdave is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 01:23 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: MI
Posts: 25,054
Fixed
Originally posted by kvrdave

I think it is just to keep us donating <s>interested</s>.
OldDude is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 01:24 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,420


Colorado is Bush Country !
Struz is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:02 PM
  #13  
Admin-Thanos
 
VinVega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Caught between the moon and NYC
Posts: 31,584
If Colorado votes to split their electoral votes, would that go into effect this election or next one?
VinVega is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:05 PM
  #14  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Nazgul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Jayhawk Central, Kansas
Posts: 7,125
Originally posted by VinVega
If Colorado votes to split their electoral votes, would that go into effect this election or next one?
I believe that they were hoping it would be this election, because they point out that if it had been in effect for the last election, Gore would have won.
Nazgul is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:19 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk God
 
kvrdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 86,201
Originally posted by Nazgul
I believe that they were hoping it would be this election, because they point out that if it had been in effect for the last election, Gore would have won.
That is the hope. And that is where the lawsuit will start. Pretty stupid. I still can't believe the majority of people in Colorado believe this to be good for them.
kvrdave is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:21 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 122,915
Originally posted by kvrdave
That is the hope. And that is where the lawsuit will start. Pretty stupid. I still can't believe the majority of people in Colorado believe this to be good for them.

I'd vote for it. Heck, presidential candidates (and their whole entourages) not coming to my state during election season is a good thing IMO. Saves a lot of taxpayer money.
Red Dog is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:24 PM
  #17  
DVD Talk God
 
kvrdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 86,201
Even though I am forever in a blue state, I would rather be that than an irrelevant state, which is what this will do to Colorado.
kvrdave is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:26 PM
  #18  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 122,915
Originally posted by kvrdave
Even though I am forever in a blue state, I would rather be that than an irrelevant state, which is what this will do to Colorado.

I live in a forever red state - it is pretty damn irrelavent. Plus with this setup, there is a less slim chance that a 3rd party could grab an electoral vote. CDM is better but popular proportionment of EVs is certainly better than winner-take-all.

As I said before, living in a battleground state is far overrated.
Red Dog is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:29 PM
  #19  
DVD Talk God
 
kvrdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 86,201
Hmmmm. But I hope that someday my state will go Republican.

I would not be opposed to it if all states did it, but I think it is poor policy when it is just Colorado (and Vermont?)
kvrdave is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:30 PM
  #20  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 122,915
Originally posted by kvrdave
Hmmmm. But I hope that someday my state will go Republican.

I would not be opposed to it if all states did it, but I think it is poor policy when it is just Colorado (and Vermont?)

Gotta start somewhere.
Red Dog is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:32 PM
  #21  
DVD Talk Hero
 
CRM114's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 42,731
Re: Colorado -kerry going for it??

Originally posted by bfrank
I got this email today-
It says your location is So. California but you get Colorado junk mail?
CRM114 is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:37 PM
  #22  
DVD Talk God
 
kvrdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 86,201
I've told him before, having a "Rocky Mountain High", does not make you from Colorado.
kvrdave is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 03:50 PM
  #23  
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: In mourning
Posts: 26,299
Originally posted by Red Dog
That ain't going to happen.

Agreed. The referendum is going to fail by a considerable margin. There recently has been an over forty point swing in the polls. It is a loser.
Pharoh is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 04:38 PM
  #24  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Madison, WI ("77 square miles surrounded by reality")
Posts: 30,005
Originally posted by kvrdave
Hmmmm. But I hope that someday my state will go Republican.

I would not be opposed to it if all states did it, but I think it is poor policy when it is just Colorado (and Vermont?)
I believe Nebraska and Maine are the ones now where they can be split.
movielib is offline  
Old 10-19-04, 10:07 PM
  #25  
DVD Talk Legend
 
LurkerDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: The People's Republic of Boulder
Posts: 21,998
Originally posted by Groucho
If they could get people in Bolder to put down the bong long enough to get out and vote, they might have a chance.
Hey! I vote!
LurkerDan is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.