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Old 10-13-04, 05:53 PM
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Nader Off Pennsylvania Ballot . Mickey Mouse and Fred Flinstone part of list of sig

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Court Pulls Nader Off Pennsylvania Ballot

1 hour, 25 minutes ago

_Politics - AP

By PETER JACKSON, Associated Press Writer

HARRISBURG, Pa. - A state court knocked Ralph Nader (news - web sites) off Pennsylvania's presidential ballot on Wednesday, citing thousands of fradulent signatures including "Mickey Mouse" and "Fred Flintstone."


Describing the petitions as "rife with forgeries," Commonwealth Court President Judge James Gardner Colins said that fewer than 19,000 of the more than 51,000 signatures that Nader's supporters submitted were valid. Nader needed at least 25,697 to be listed on the ballot as an independent candidate.

"I am compelled to emphasize that this signature-gathering process was the most deceitful and fraudulent exercise ever perpetrated upon this court," Colins said in a 15-page ruling that followed a two-week review in multiple courtrooms across the state.


"The conduct of the candidates, through their representatives (not their attorneys), shocks the conscience of the court," he said. "In reviewing signatures, it became apparent that, in addition to signing names such as 'Mickey Mouse,' 'Fred Flintstone,' 'John Kerry (news - web sites),' and the ubiquitous 'Ralph Nader,' there were thousands of names that were created at random and then randomly assigned either existent or nonexistent addresses by the circulators."


The signature review was prompted by a court challenge filed by a group of voters sympathetic to Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry.


Democrats have had mixed success in their effort to keep Nader off the ballot in battleground states where they fear he could siphon votes from John Kerry. Besides Pennsylvania, he failed to make the ballot in Ohio, Oregon and Missouri but has succeeded in winning a spot on ballots in Florida, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin.


Overall, Nader will be on the ballot in 34 states and the District of Columbia.


Nader's unsettled status had caused headaches for elections officials in Pennsylvania's 67 counties as the court proceedings bumped up against the timetable for mailing out larger-than-usual batches of absentee ballots.


Some counties heeded the state's recommendation that they not send out civilian absentee ballots until after the court case was settled, but many counties decided to mail out ballots that included Nader so that voters have time to cast them by the Oct. 29 deadline. Absentee votes cast for Nader are likely to be thrown out, officials have said.


In 2000, Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) carried Pennsylvania, beating George W. Bush by fewer than 205,000 votes out of 4.9 million cast. Nader, the Green Party nominee that year, received 103,392 votes.

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"Mickey Mouse" and "Fred Flintstone

You know, you figure whoever is gathering the signatures or monitoring this would have picked these names up along with John Kerry to ensure that the set of signatures look legitimate. Another reason why the whole Nader campaign is a big joke. This make me wonder whether he really got enough "real" signatures to be on the ballots of other states.

He even said so himself that he won't win a single state. At least he's an honest nut. I honestly don't know what Nader is all about.

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How can anyone stand by as Mickey and Fred are disenfranchised?

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I honestly don't know what Nader is all about.
http://www.nader.org/
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How can anyone stand by as Mickey and Fred are disenfranchised?

Fuckin' A!

I'll pick you up on the 3rd, bfrank!

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Re: Re: Nader Off Pennsylvania Ballot . Mickey Mouse and Fred Flinstone part of list

Originally posted by B.A.
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Actually, I didn't want to know .

Sorry. It's too important of an election to toss away my vote.
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As much as I'd like a wacko anti-corporate zealot to be President for 4 years, I have to vote for regime change.
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Old 10-13-04, 06:16 PM
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This sickens me. Despite the uplifting message of unity offered in films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Cool World, some people continue to deny Animated-Americans the right to vote.
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Not to mention the brave sacrifices our fighting ducks and rabbits in Technicolor made in WWII. Sickening, truly sickening.
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Goddamn celebrities always pushing their agendas.

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I just don't see Mickey voting for Nader.

I think John Kerry just tossed in his signature as a pity.
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In related PA election news:

Jutice Department seeks more time for Pennsylvania overseas and military voters

By The Associated Press

HARRISBURG -- The federal government asked a judge to give military families and overseas voters in Pennsylvania until after the Nov. 2 election to submit absentee ballots for president because of an ongoing court fight over Ralph Nader's ballot status.

In papers filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg, the Justice Department says Nader's on-again-off-again status caused some counties last month to mail ballots that listed Nader as a candidate while others sent ballots that omitted his name.

The agency asked Judge Yvette Kane to order the state to direct counties to mail corrected ballots to those voters once the state courts resolve whether Nader can run in Pennsylvania as an independent candidate for president.

It also asks that the deadline for submitting those ballots in the presidential election be extended to Nov. 17 or an earlier date if it allows 30 days for the ballots to be sent and returned. It also wants the state to allow those votes to be returned by fax, e-mail or air express.

An extension of the deadline for overseas ballots could delay the tabulation of the presidential vote if the contest for Pennsylvania's 21 electoral votes -- the nation's fifth-largest prize -- is as close as some polls suggest.

Lawyers for both sides conferred with Kane by telephone Tuesday, and the judge indicated that she was reluctant to act on the request until after the state courts resolve Nader's status, according to spokeswomen for Gov. Ed Rendell and the judge.

On Tuesday, the state Commonwealth Court completed a two-week review of signatures on Nader's nominating petitions and a ruling was expected as early as Wednesday on whether he still has enough signatures to be listed on the ballot. An appeal to the state Supreme Court was considered likely, regardless of which way the Commonwealth Court rules.

The latest filings seek to build on litigation that gave the state's military and overseas voters extra time to cast absentee ballots in the primary.

In the state's April 27 primary, because of a record number of challenges to nominating petitions, state and federal judges extended the deadline for absentee ballots from military families and overseas voters until May 17 -- three weeks after the election.

The deadline for most absentee ballots in the general election is Oct. 29, but absentee ballots for president are counted as long as they are submitted before the polls close on Nov. 2, said State Department spokesman Brian McDonald.
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Mickey would vote for Kerry because he's black and Fred would vote for Bush because he's a caveman.

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Originally posted by Michael Ballack
Mickey would vote for Kerry because he's black and Fred would vote for Bush because he's a caveman.
0/5 Go to your room.
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This is a missed opportunity, the Republicans should have gotten together and got Nader on the ballot.
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