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Old 10-11-04, 09:21 AM
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If it were up to you how would you reform the election process?

Just curious what people think... would you increase regulation of money or eliminate the existing regulation? How about the electoral college system? Would you mandate the election cycle only be a couple of months long or let the parties themselves determine when to start it? Would you try to increase third party participation?
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Old 10-11-04, 09:28 AM
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I would reverse the primary and general elections.

So, in the first election, people go out and decide which party they wanted to send the president to the white house.

In the second election, people who voted for the winning party get to vote again for their favorite candidate from within that party.
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Old 10-11-04, 09:38 AM
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It's a tough call. The 2 party system ensures that both parties talk toward the middle and creates a lot of gridlock, but the thought of coalition governments like you have in Israel's multi party system turns my stomach. The 2 party system is pretty solid, so if I had to choose, I'd keep it as it is.
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Old 10-11-04, 10:03 AM
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A half billion dollars plus spent (or will be spent) on just this presidential campaign seems like a problem. I don't know what to do about it, though.
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Our nation has not always been a "2 party system" , and there is nothing inherent in that system that makes it superior/inferior so the root of reform will have something to do with the candidate selection process.

If anyone can honestly say that the "system works", given the 2 candidates this year (and in recent years past) then there is no hope.

Here's some ideas for reform:
- No party affiliate names/symbols listings on ballots. This nonsense of voting party line regardless of the individual removes personal responsibility of the individual candidate and shifts it to the party.

- No commercials ads. These ads are always one-sided and never tell the truth. They don't serve any good purpose.

- Ease up on the requirements for people to get on ballots. Both parties hyper-scrutinize petitions when they believe that a 3rd party candidate will hurt their chances. Funny how these same people who are sticklers for "the letter of the law" (to prevent 3rd party candidates) suddenly shift gears and are willing to bend the rules when it comes to getting people to vote. (especially when they think that it will help people who will vote for their candidate).

- clean up the whole voting system. Voting irregularities (going both ways) far exceeded the margin of victory in the last presidential election.
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Old 10-11-04, 10:34 AM
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stop promoting the two party system with federal matching funds or whatever...

but i also would like to have more campaign finance restrictions so the candidates aren't bought like they are now.


i would really like some kind of test requirement before you can vote
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Old 10-11-04, 10:42 AM
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A show of hands at a town meeting. Of course, punch and pie would have to be served.
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sracer - eloquently put.
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Old 10-11-04, 10:53 AM
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2. Money = speech, therefore, I think personal contribution limits should be lifted and all contributions be recorded in the public record.
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Old 10-11-04, 10:58 AM
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How about this?

Instead of elections, everybody (including the candidates), fills out a questionaire where they rate their views on the issues.

Example: Abortion should be legal (5=Strongly Agree, 1=Strongly Disagree)

Then, the results are tallied, and everybody's "vote" goes to the candidate who mosts matches their views.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:24 AM
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All primaries should be held on the same day.
Get rid of limits on what individuals can donate to candidates. Make any other donations illegal.
Make it illegal for electors to vote for anyone other than the candiate the got the most votes in their state.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:33 AM
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I would get rid of absentee ballots and require that people show up to the polls with actual ID for their vote to count.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Red Dog

2. Money = speech, therefore, I think personal contribution limits should be lifted and all contributions be recorded in the public record.




I have been saying this forever. No regulation or limits, full disclosure.


Oh, and keep intact the two party system.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:40 AM
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Oh, and keep intact the two party system.
Surprise, surprise.



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Originally posted by B.A.
Surprise, surprise.






I don't ever try to hide where I am coming from though.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Pharoh



I have been saying this forever. No regulation or limits, full disclosure.


Oh, and keep intact the two party system.

Oh and I forgot

3. Eliminate party affiliation on the ballot.
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Old 10-11-04, 11:50 AM
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I guess the two main issues for me are:

Personally I'm beginning to like this district based EC system (1 vote awarded for the winner of the specific congressional district [based on popular vote] and the overall winner for the state gets 2 extra votes).

Regarding money I also like the lifting the cap but having ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY (the person who made the contribution and their company affiliation [if made in that context] should be recorded/made public). All ads should contain a link to the website of the group that produced it as well as their tax ID number so people can look up the group.
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Originally posted by kvrdave
I would get rid of absentee ballots and require that people show up to the polls with actual ID for their vote to count.
While I agree with ID when voting in person, I disagree with getting rid of absentee. There are Americans all over the world that cannot get back home to vote.
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Oh and I forgot

3. Eliminate party affiliation on the ballot.

Wouldn't affect me personally, so..

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Shorten the entire campaign & election time period. 6 month max from first day of campaiging prior to the primary, to election day. Maybe even shorter, like 4 months.

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Originally posted by nevermind
While I agree with ID when voting in person, I disagree with getting rid of absentee. There are Americans all over the world that cannot get back home to vote.
Screw 'em
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Old 10-11-04, 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Dave99
Shorten the entire campaign & election time period. 6 month max from first day of campaiging prior to the primary, to election day. Maybe even shorter, like 4 months.

dave

I assume you plan on amending the 1st amendment then, correct?
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Old 10-11-04, 01:42 PM
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No limits on money. Heck more money is bet on the superbowl than is spent on electing someone to run the country for 4 years.

Scrap campaign finance reform.

Last but not least...

Need photo id's to vote.
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Old 10-11-04, 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by bhk
No limits on money. Heck more money is bet on the superbowl than is spent on electing someone to run the country for 4 years.

Never thought of it that way. There is some hope for this country after all.
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Old 10-11-04, 01:52 PM
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Never thought of it that way.
John McPain is counting on that.
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