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Food, Inc.

Old 08-18-09, 09:39 PM
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Food, Inc.







Bit of a crosspost but we need some content in this new forum. Here was what I said about Food, Inc. back on 8/6:

Saw this at the E Street Theater in DC this past weekend. It was pretty good. It covers a wide range of concerns without deep diving into any single one too much. The downside to this approach is that it makes it easier for critics of the film to pick it apart (which several have). The upside is that it allows the film to serve as a primer of sorts to the average viewer who haven't previously read The Omnivore's Dilemma to tatters or watched The World According to Monsanto.

I am hardly an activist on the subject and I suspect that the filmmakers play it a little fast and loose with the facts in places. On the other hand, viewers will certainly leave the theaters with some very honest and worthwhile questions in their mind. Much of what the film describes really is pretty hard to defend. If nothing else, be prepared to me moved (and probably brought to tears) by Barbara Kowalcyk as she describes the death of her son.

The film does contain some disturbing imagery but I think most people needn't worry too much about eating beforehand. This isn't a shockfest.
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Food: I enjoy it.
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I was at a steak house the other day, and I ordered my steak rare. When I got it, it was pink in the middle, but there was no blood at all. I won't be taking my business there again.
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I haven't seen Food, Inc and I probably won't because it is too similar to something like Super Size Me. Does anyone else get hungery after watching movies like this?
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I stopped eating at McDonald's and buying organic at first after watching SSM. Now, eat at McDonald's occasionally and buy whatever's cheap.
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I usually punch my food before I eat it, as one last indignity. Stupid food.
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Old 08-19-09, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu Man View Post
I haven't seen Food, Inc and I probably won't because it is too similar to something like Super Size Me. Does anyone else get hungery after watching movies like this?
They aren't particularly similar.
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Everyone should have seen this flick. It's an eye-opener. The lack of any substantive comments in this thread is irksome. Now I remember why I substantially curtailed my visits to this forum. It's been like IMDB's little brother as of late.
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Old 08-19-09, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker View Post
Everyone should have seen this flick. It's an eye-opener. The lack of any substantive comments in this thread is irksome. Now I remember why I substantially curtailed my visits to this forum. It's been like IMDB's little brother as of late.
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Old 08-19-09, 12:31 PM
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who do you believe? this movie or penn and teller?
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Old 08-21-09, 01:08 AM
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Food, Inc is very "fresh" at Rotten Tomatoes.

Here is the trailer for the film.

And the first 3 minutes of the film are online here.


And then, on the other side of the debate on how food is made, here's a site owned by the meat industry that (unsurprisingly) provides an opposing viewpoint to the claims made within the film.


There, now that should add some stuff to talk about in this thread.
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I'm shocked that the same critics who always fall all over themselves praising Michael Moore movies, Al Gore's movie, the movies of Robert Greenwald and the movie where a guy stuffed himself to "prove" McDonald's is bad liked this.

Thanks for the link. Most of that makes a lot of sense.
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who do you believe? this movie or penn and teller?
P&T by a mile.
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Old 08-22-09, 08:35 PM
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"Unless you and yours are starving, you need to shut...the...fuck...up!"

Movies like Food, Inc. are what the Ehrlichians masturbate to...constantly.
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Old 08-25-09, 09:09 PM
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This movie sucked.

First of all, it totally romanticizes what "real" food once was. The processes behind modern GMO foods are just cross-breeding and selective planting with more precision. That and many of the crops, plants, and animals barely resemble their ancestors.

Secondly, they never mention just how many more resources it takes to grow and produce "organic" food. That's why organic food is so expensive, and why very few people can afford to eat organic foods. For a movie that posits that factory farming is contributing to global warming, I found this distortion egregious. I find that term highly irritating by the way. I guess that head of lettuce i'm eating is made of silicon if it's not certified organic!

It decries corporate america just because it's big. For no other reason other than that it's big. That's all. Just because it's big. There aren't any real substantive arguments other than the fact that it's big.

If you want a better movie on the farm industry, I suggest King Corn. It's a much better movie.
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And then, on the other side of the debate on how food is made, here's a site owned by the meat industry that (unsurprisingly) provides an opposing viewpoint to the claims made within the film.


Thanks for the link. Most of that makes a lot of sense.
I was impressed by how straight-forward that industry-run site is. In its saying that there's too much demand for food for there to be enough land for the old ways of raising animals to work is close to them saying that there are just too many people and over-population being the real issue.
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Old 08-27-09, 08:21 PM
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P&T will never be accused of being impartial.

If you like Super Size Me, you'll want to check out Fast Food Nation. I haven't seen Food Inc. but the topic is covered in the featured article of "Time" magazine with the "The Real Cost of Cheap Food."
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Old 09-18-09, 04:44 PM
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I was impressed by how straight-forward that industry-run site is. In its saying that there's too much demand for food for there to be enough land for the old ways of raising animals to work is close to them saying that there are just too many people and over-population being the real issue.
Yes, but that statement simply isn't true. There need not be current level of demand for meat. Our diet has something to do with it. Take India -- a huge portion of the population there are vegetarian -- 100s of million people, certainly more than the entire US population. And this is a cultural -- the rich are vegetarian just as much as the poor.

Note, I'm not advocating vegetarianism, I'm certainly not one. But I don't see why we need to eat as much beef as we do. Once a week is plenty (I probably have it once or twice a month). Some poultry, some eggs, some fish, the occasional ham sandwich, and plenty of vegetables, pasta/grains, rice, beans. If we simply ended subsidies to cattle feed (corn, etc.) our national diet would start to change.
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This movie sucked.

First of all, it totally romanticizes what "real" food once was. The processes behind modern GMO foods are just cross-breeding and selective planting with more precision. That and many of the crops, plants, and animals barely resemble their ancestors.

Secondly, they never mention just how many more resources it takes to grow and produce "organic" food. That's why organic food is so expensive, and why very few people can afford to eat organic foods. For a movie that posits that factory farming is contributing to global warming, I found this distortion egregious. I find that term highly irritating by the way. I guess that head of lettuce i'm eating is made of silicon if it's not certified organic!

It decries corporate america just because it's big. For no other reason other than that it's big. That's all. Just because it's big. There aren't any real substantive arguments other than the fact that it's big.

If you want a better movie on the farm industry, I suggest King Corn. It's a much better movie.
Did you completely ignore the fact that the shitty food is unfairly subsidized?
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We joined a local food co-op after watching this movie.
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I'm shocked that the same critics who always fall all over themselves praising Michael Moore movies, Al Gore's movie, the movies of Robert Greenwald and the movie where a guy stuffed himself to "prove" McDonald's is bad liked this.


Thanks for the link. Most of that makes a lot of sense.
Do you think the food in the grocery store is good for you? Do you like eating produce ripened by gases? Do you like ingesting antibiotics and genetically engineered chickens with breasts so big they cannot stand up?

Is the concern over our food system all made up and yet another attempt by socialists to destroy the very fabric of capitalist America?
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I guess that head of lettuce i'm eating is made of silicon if it's not certified organic!
No, its just full of pesticides and chemicals and was most likely genetically engineered to resist pests in the first place. Yum!

It decries corporate america just because it's big. For no other reason other than that it's big. That's all. Just because it's big. There aren't any real substantive arguments other than the fact that it's big.
I suppose if one goes into the movie with predispositions against what it is saying.
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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov View Post
Note, I'm not advocating vegetarianism, I'm certainly not one. But I don't see why we need to eat as much beef as we do. Once a week is plenty (I probably have it once or twice a month). Some poultry, some eggs, some fish, the occasional ham sandwich, and plenty of vegetables, pasta/grains, rice, beans. If we simply ended subsidies to cattle feed (corn, etc.) our national diet would start to change.


The problem is that many, if not most, Americans simply do not want to be inconvenienced in thinking about health. The most striking thing is what people feed their children when they have every opportunity to do it better.
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It was a really good documentary.

It's amazing to see so many people that... are so effortlessly(it seems) conditioned that they will champion factory 'farms' feeding them crap.

The power of propaganda and social conditioning is amazing. The older I get the more I realize it's one of the most powerful things on earth.
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Old 01-21-10, 11:24 AM
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Absolutely. I walked through the first 40 years of my life oblivious to food marketing (I'm 42). Hopefully, it's not too late to make a positive impact on my health. I choose to pay more for my food now. Unfortunately, as the film spells out, most do not have this luxury as its cheaper to feed your family at McDonalds than via a grocer.
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