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Old 03-28-22, 05:22 AM
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"The Slap Heard Around The World" -- Will Smith assaults Chris Rock at the Academy Awards

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Jesus Christ, Chris Rock was not "attacking" Jada Pinkett Smith. He made one tame joke about her shaved head. He wasn't up there doing a five minute set about her baldness. It was one stupid joke, and he was ribbing others in the audience as well. Some of you act like you've never heard a stand-up comic before.

Had Rock really wanted to "attack" Pinkett Smith, trust me, he could come up with something much more sharp and biting than a reference to a 25 year old movie about a bad-ass woman who shaved her head to become a Navy SEAL.
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He gets in one little fight...
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While I don't believe the joke was written for Rock, I do kind of lean towards him not knowing Pinket was going through a medical issue. There have certainly been far worse ribs in Oscar history then this one if, you know, Rock wasn't going out there to purposely be an asshole regarding a woman's illness. And, when you think about it, this could have swung another way. I mean, G.I. Jane may have had a woman with a shaved head but it is also about a kick ass woman who holds her ground against a group of men expecting her to fail. I mean, he could have said she was ready for Powder 2.

Still, either way you slice this cake, it's assault. In any situation. Picture a comic on stage take a potshot at an audience member and then gets smacked in front of the crowd.

If anything, it sure took away from the second most inappropriate moment of the night being that horrible Regina skit. Shang-chi jokingly asking his co-host to have sex with him was also pretty strange.

But this Chris v Rock moment will now certainly join the ranks, if not top them, of the streaker, Brando not accepting and the La La Land flub.

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Of all things said and done, that's the hill Smith wants to die on to prove he's not a cuck?
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Re: The 94th Academy Awards --> 2022 Oscar Awards Show Discussion

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While I don't believe the joke was written for Rock, I do kind of lean towards him not knowing Pinket was going through a medical issue. There have certainly been far worse ribs in Oscar history then this one if, you know, Rock wasn't going out there to purposely be an asshole regarding a woman's illness. And, when you think about it, this could have swung another way. I mean, G.I. Jane may have had a woman with a shaved head but it is also about a kick ass woman who holds her ground against a group of men expecting her to fail.

Still, either way you slice this cake, it's assault. In any situation. Picture a comic on stage take a potshot at an audience member and then gets smacked in front of the crowd.

If anything, it sure took away from the second most inappropriate moment of the night being that horrible Regina skit. Shang-chi jokingly asking his co-host to have sex with him was also pretty strange.

But this Chris v Rock moment will now certainly join the ranks, if not top them, of the streaker, Brando not accepting and the La La Land flub.
Agree. You don't respond to a joke (no matter how tasteless, assuming Rock knew about Jada's condition) with violence, and then get onstage and talk about love. I would have been fine with it if Smith walked onstage and interrupted the show to tell Rock his wife had a medical condition and ask for an apology. Striking him was too much, and shouldn't be applauded or normalized. I've seen a lot of "that's how a MAN protects his WOMAN!" tweets, and it's depressing that so many think this is ok.
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Of all things said and done, that's the hill Smith wants to die on to prove he's not a cuck?
Cuck is trending on Twitter.
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Agree. You don't respond to a joke (no matter how tasteless, assuming Rock knew about Jada's condition) with violence, and then get onstage and talk about love. I would have been fine with it if Smith walked onstage and interrupted the show to tell Rock his wife had a medical condition and ask for an apology. Striking him was too much, and shouldn't be applauded or normalized. I've seen a lot of "that's how a MAN protects his WOMAN!" tweets, and it's depressing that so many think this is ok.
Agreed. Even just what occurred after the assault with Smith cussing Rock out forcing ABC to silence the broadcast would have been cringe worthy and cast him in a bad light, but it is not a crime.
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Diddy: ‘I can confirm’ Will Smith, Chris Rock settled feud after Oscars 2022

Will Smith and Chris Rock made amends after that now-infamous slap, Page Six can exclusively reveal.

Sean “Diddy” Combs confirmed at the Vanity Fair Oscars bash Sunday night that the duo let bygones be bygones after Rock made a joke about Jada Pinkett Smith’s bald head during the awards ceremony.

“That’s not a problem. That’s over. I can confirm that,” Diddy, 52, told us of the beef without elaborating on further details of how Smith, 53, and Rock, 57, had reconciled.

“It’s all love,” he added. “They’re brothers.”
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Diddy the guy who extolled the virtues of the Godfather and the story of a family coming together on the path to legitimacy and respect?

Are we really going to assume Diddy has any clue what's actually going on?
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Diddy the guy who extolled the virtues of the Godfather and the story of a family coming together on the path to legitimacy and respect?

Are we really going to assume Diddy has any clue what's actually going on?
lol exactly.
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The sheer hypocrisy of the people in that room applauding him after that. After years of grandstanding post-Weinstein and the like, about not tolerating powerful men who get away with abuse, so many there cheered him, others like Schumer and Chastain when afforded the opportunity responded in weak tea generalities.

He should've been removed and barred from receiving the award and not allowed back. I wish one person had the guts to stand up and yell "Shame! Apologize to Chris Rock" and then leave the theater. It is a disgrace.

You can guarantee the reaction would've been 100% different had this been a white star striking a black man. Black on black violence is excused and even applauded by members of their own community. It is pathetic.
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Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinion Thread: Will Smith was out of line smacking Chris Rock. And his speech/justification afterward makes me think he's a stupid asshole.

But at the same time, I recognized at a young age you don't say things about a guy's wife. This wasn't them at a party, where they're all goofing around. He made fun of her appearance, in front of an audience of hundreds of acquaintances and strangers, as well as on TV before millions. If you do that and the wife truly feels hurt or humiliated, you can't be shocked when the husband has a reaction you weren't expecting.

To paraphrase Chris Rock's own joke about OJ murdering Nichole: I'm not saying he should have smacked him... But I understand.
I donít think anyone is saying ďDonít defend your wife.Ē Smith could have shook his head in disgust at the joke, he could have confronted Rock after the show and demanded he apologize to Jada. He could have made a comment about it in his acceptance speech about how you donít do that to another manís wife, etc. what you donít do is halt a live, nationally televised show to assault someone on stage.

Roasting nominees and fellow actors is part of the ceremony and has been for decades. This is the end of award season. Presumably, Smith has just sat through a dozen other shows where presenters roasted everyone who showed up to the ceremony. Itís not like this was some surprise that jokes were going to be made at other actorsí expense.

I might feel a little different about it if the Smithís were an extremely private family who were very careful about revealing information about their private lives. The Smiths have made a fortune going on national TV and talking about everything from their kids to their sex lives. Will doesnít get to claim that he was protecting his family out of love. You want to protect your family? Donít spend the last 10 years splashing your private affairs all over TV!
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His speech was like justification for defending your loved ones. C'mon, did Chris Rock even write that lame harmless joke? Now if Jada has an actual medical condition, yeah, can see her being pissed and that's not cool. But how do you hit someone over something so lame, or at all? Meanwhile people get canceled over nonsense.
Will Smith has a lot of money.

I'm sure he'll get to keep his Oscar and he'll be invited back and all will be forgiven.

If it was you, me or anyone else...we'd be escorted out, arrested and thrown in jail.
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I think its simple. People like Will Smith. So all is forgiven.
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Actually, in this case, the words probably hurt Jada more than the slap hurt Rock. She's already very self conscious about her hair loss, and to have it mocked on international TV in front of millions of people? That will probably stay with her for the rest of her life. That's some serious mental and emotional trauma.

Rock probably had a sore face for 2 or 3 minutes.

Words really can hurt you and leave permanent scars.
And what if the slap had been a little bit harder and Rock had fallen and hit his head? There is no excuse for violence.

And Will's line about love making you do stupid things, I wonder how many abuse victims have heard that excuse?
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This all sounds/looks staged. A ploy to get more viewers. And if not the case, then it was a dumb idea. I skipped the Oscars again and been doing so since 2003.
How would that work?
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How would that work?
seriously. anyone that says it was staged to get more viewers is a moron. how is an unsuspecting world public going to know that in almost the 3rd hour of a terrible awards ceremony a black actor would hit another black actor over a very tasteless adlibbed joke?
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I donít think anyone is saying ďDonít defend your wife.Ē Smith could have shook his head in disgust at the joke, he could have confronted Rock after the show and demanded he apologize to Jada. He could have made a comment about it in his acceptance speech about how you donít do that to another manís wife, etc. what you donít do is halt a live, nationally televised show to assault someone on stage.
Yup. He committed a violent crime in response to a somewhat tasteless but otherwise harmless joke about his wife. He did so with millions of witnesses. I am assuming that there were probably several sworn law enforcement officers in the facility last night and it is a pretty safe bet that one or more of them actually witnessed the crime. What should have happened is that one of them should have approached Rock and asked him if he wished to press charges. Predictably, Rock would have (and has since) said "no". However, had he said yes, they could have (and possibly would have been obligated to depending on California law) arrested Smith on the spot.

Regardless, I am with the several other commenters here that, at the very least, Smith should have been escorted off the premises immediately. Not giving him the award is obviously impractical, but he should not have been there to give his acceptance speech. His inability to do so would have been awkward, but it also would have been an appropriate response to the gravity of what actually happened. It would have been memorable for the right reason. Instead, I fear that this whole incident will be "laughed" off and that the Academy will never be held accountable for their unwillingness to do the right thing here.

Roasting nominees and fellow actors is part of the ceremony and has been for decades. This is the end of award season. Presumably, Smith has just sat through a dozen other shows where presenters roasted everyone who showed up to the ceremony. Itís not like this was some surprise that jokes were going to be made at other actorsí expense.
Thank you for mentioning this. If you sit in the first few rows at The Oscars, you should expect to be the butt of a few jokes. I think it is safe to say that more than a few Oscars jokes have been at least as questionable as Rock's joke. I still cringe thinking about the back and forth between Gervais and Mel Gibson several years ago yet Gibson didn't assault Gervais. He laughed it off and even tried to land some jokes back on Ricky (one of which was actually pretty good IIRC).

And this wasn't even the the first major problem for the show. Regina Hill's joke about sexually assaulting several men, most specifically her "pat down" of Brolin and Momoa, was astoundingly inappropriate and it amazes me that this was given the green light. Imagine if the genders had been reversed.
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This was also the first time The Oscars had a black producer and all-black production team.

Jesus. What an embarrassment. Just furthering stereotypes etc. I bet Denzel wanted to dig a hole and jump in it .
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Prediction: Next year, Chris Rock will present an award again, but this time with THE Rock. A joke will be made to the effect of the reason Dwayne Johnson is there is for protection in case Chris decides to make another Jada Pinkett joke.
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Roasting nominees and fellow actors is part of the ceremony and has been for decades. This is the end of award season. Presumably, Smith has just sat through a dozen other shows where presenters roasted everyone who showed up to the ceremony. Itís not like this was some surprise that jokes were going to be made at other actorsí expense.
Well apparently now you can just attack a presenter if you don't like the lame joke they say about you. Or at a roast if someone goes too hard .. just attack them. This is so insane on so many levels.
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Well apparently now you can just attack a presenter if you don't like the lame joke they say about you. Or at a roast if someone goes too hard .. just attack them. This is so insane on so many levels.
This. While the Academy has now tweeted it doesn't condone violence, in the same tweet it praised the night's winners sooooo.... yeah....
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Well apparently now you can just attack a presenter if you don't like the lame joke they say about you. Or at a roast if someone goes too hard .. just attack them. This is so insane on so many levels.
I want to speak to this from the production side. I've never produced anything to a fraction of the scale of the Oscars, but I have over a decade of live TV production experience as well as event and award ceremony production under my belt. I guarantee it was a nightmare in the control room after that happened. Calls were being made to see if Smith should be removed from the premises. They were scrambling to do something about the Best Actor category (but remember they don't know if he won or not). They were trying to get someone in authority on the phone to make a call on what to do. All while the show is going on to a worldwide audience. It looks to me like it was close enough to the end that they decided to just get to the end and deal with it later.

This does not mean it's open season on comedians. This will NEVER happen on the Oscars again. No one will be allowed to just hop up on stage again. Security will be there to stop them. This was an unprecedented and shocking event and it froze everyone but they know it's a terrible look for the show.

In a perfect world, Smith would have taken his time at the podium to say that it wasn't cool what Rock said but that he had no right to respond that way and then refuse to accept the Oscar. That would have solved the entire mess. But of course someone who'd do what Smith did wouldn't be big enough to turn around that quickly and do the right thing.
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Well apparently now you can just attack a presenter if you don't like the lame joke they say about you. Or at a roast if someone goes too hard .. just attack them. This is so insane on so many levels.
I'm fascinated by this idea.

Will Smith is a superstar celebrity and a VERY rich man. The rules for him do not apply for everybody else. This is how Hollywood and America have been for as long as I've been alive.

Chris Rock was "the victim." He didn't want to press charges. He didn't want to make any kind of deal, big or small, about it. He said to let it go. Everybody took their cue from Rock. If he had stopped the show and started yelling, "Call the cops!" It would have been a different story.
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