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2021 DVDTalk Dead Pool Wiki:

Official list of Celebrities included in this year's pool:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk...l#post13890839

Official "List of Lists", providing each player's individual list of 2021 Celebrities:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk...l#post13890886

Current Standings (Betty White, December 31st):
(1): 10-943 kenbuzz (Betty White, Bob Dole, Beverly Cleary, Cloris Leachman, Ed Asner, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(2): 9-867 movieguru (Betty Lynn, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Moore (Captain))
(3): 7-649 printerati (Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Desmond Tutu, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(4): 7-660 John Galt (Betty White, Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [up 2]
(5): 6-488 AaronHernandez (Bill Freehan, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Lina Wertmiller, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(6): 6-548 JoeySeven (Bob Dole, Donald Rumsfeld, George Shultz, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Walter Mondale) [down 1]
(7): 6-569 Max Bottomtime (Betty White, Cloris Leachman, Gloria Henry, Hank Aaron, Prince Philip, Tommy Lasorda)
(8): 6-570 tommyp007 (Betty White, Bob Dole, Cloris Leachman, Hal Holbrook, John Madden, Prince Philip)
(9): 5-467 IDrinkMolson (Betty White, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [up 1]
(10): 5-486 Coral (Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Jean-Paul Belmondo, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip) [down 1]
(11): 4-365 pkgman (Bernie Madoff, Betty White, Ed Asner, Tommy Lasorda)
(12): 4-374 GoldenJCJ (Betty White, Bob Dole, Christopher Plummer, Hank Aaron)
(13): 4-379 EdTheRipper (Betty White, Beverly Cleary, Clarence Williams III, Hal Holbrook)
(14): 4-384 Paff (Betty White, Cloris Leachman, John Madden, Norman Lloyd)
(15): 4-385 truman328 (Betty White, Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Tommy Lasorda)
(16): 2-198y jpcamb (Betty White, Bob Dole)
(17): 1-104 DaveNinja (Beverly Cleary)

Standings sorted by:
# of deaders
Combined age of deaders (lower is better)






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Re: Dead pool 2021

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ View Post
Damn it! I almost made it the whole year without a hit!

Definitely dropping trump off my list next year.
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Looks like 10 of us had Senator Dole.
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Been a while since the standings were tallied.
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Originally Posted by kenbuzz View Post

Norman Lloyd · 106
November 8th, 1914 — May 11th, 2021
I'm not laughing, I'm really not. It's tragic.

Five players had Norman Lloyd on their list: Coral, IDrinkMolson, John Galt, movieguru, Paff

Updated for Norman Lloyd:

(1): 7-655 kenbuzz (Beverly Cleary, Cloris Leachman, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(2): 7-674 movieguru (Beverly Cleary, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Moore (Captain))
(3): 5-461 printerati (Beverly Cleary, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(4): 5-463 John Galt (Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(5): 4-368 IDrinkMolson (Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [up 2]
(6): 4-372 Max Bottomtime (Cloris Leachman, Hank Aaron, Prince Philip, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(7): 3-241 AaronHernandez (Floyd Little, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(8): 3-269 JoeySeven (George Shultz, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh)
(9): 3-288 tommyp007 (Cloris Leachman, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip)
(10): 3-300 Coral (Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip) [up 3]
(11): 2-175 pkgman (Bernie Madoff, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(12): 2-177 GoldenJCJ (Christopher Plummer, Hank Aaron) [down 1]
(13): 2-188 truman328 (Hal Holbrook, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(14): 2-199 EdTheRipper (Beverly Cleary, Hal Holbrook)
(15): 2-200 Paff (Cloris Leachman, Norman Lloyd)
(16): 1-104 DaveNinja (Beverly Cleary)

Not yet on the board: jpcamb

Standings sorted by:
# of deaders
Combined age of deaders (lower is better)
I had a few more hits since the last update.
JoeySeven (George Shultz, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh)
Also Mondale, Rumsfeld, and the recently deceased Dole. RIP

1-Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh RIP
2-Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
3-Harvey Weinstein
4-Bob Dole RIP
5-Walter Mondale RIP
6-Pat Robertson
7-Bill Cosby
8-O. J. Simpson
9-George Schultz RIP
10-Rush Limbaugh RIP
11-Henry Kissinger
12-George W. Bush
13-Kim Jong-un
14-Dick Cheney
15-Mikhail Gorbechev
16-Alan Greenspan
17-Bernie Sanders
18-Donald Rumsfeld RIP
19-Jimmy Swaggart
20-Jimmy Carter

Old 12-09-21, 02:29 PM
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Hmmm..... the 2021 Dead Pool is suffering from neglect. I've got an hour, let me see if I can get this updated.
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Re: Dead pool 2021

I'm not going to provide a chronological update, just one massive sweep to pick up all of the newly dead celebs since the last official update on May 11.

Here's the list of celebs: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk...l#post13890839

According to Wikipedia, here are the updates:
  • Betty Lynn (1) - October 16, 2021 (aged 95) [movieguru]
  • Bill Freehan (1) - August 19, 2021 (aged 79) [AaronHernandez]
  • Bob Dole (10) - December 5, 2021 (aged 98) [Coral, GoldenJCJ, JoeySeven, John Galt, jpcamb, kenbuzz, movieguru, printerati, tommyp007, truman328]
  • Clarence Williams III (1) - June 4, 2021 (aged 81) [EdTheRipper]
  • Donald Rumsfeld (1) - June 29, 2021 (aged 88) [JoeySeven]
  • Ed Asner (2) - August 29, 2021 (aged 91) [kenbuzz, pkgman]
  • Gerd Muller (1) - 15 August 2021 (aged 75) [AaronHernandez]
  • Gloria Henry (1) - April 3, 2021 (aged 98) [Max Bottomtime]
  • Jean-Paul Belmondo (1) - 6 September 2021 (aged 88) [Coral]
  • Lina Wertmiller (1) - 9 December 2021 (aged 93) [AaronHernandez]
  • Walter Mondale (1) - April 19, 2021 (aged 93) [JoeySeven]
Surprising, there are a couple who passed prior to the May 11 update. Oh well, it's an imperfect world.

Updating the standings....
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Re: Dead pool 2021


Betty Lynn · 95
August 29, 1926 — October 16, 2021



Bill Freehan · 79
November 29, 1941 — August 19, 2021


Bob Dole · 98
July 22, 1923 – December 5, 2021
Being dead is something Bob Dole would do. It's not something Bob Dole has done
before, and not likely to be something Bob Dole ever does again.



Clarence Williams III · 81
August 21, 1939 – June 4, 2021


Donald Rumsfeld · 88
July 9th, 1932 - June 29th, 2021
He had a ton of military awards, AND had to resign in disgrace. A well rounded career, we say.


Ed Asner · 91
November 15th, 1929 - August 29th, 2021
Up, up and away.



Gerd Muller · 75
3 November 1945 – 15 August 2021


Gloria Henry · 98
April 2, 1923 – April 3, 2021


Jean-Paul Belmondo · 88
9 April 1933 – 6 September 2021


Lina Wertmiller · 93
14 August 1928 – 9 December 2021


Walter Mondale · 93
January 5th, 1928 - April 19th, 2021
Imagine being MOST known for getting your ass kicked almost as bad as is POSSIBLE in
a Presidential election. He had 13 electoral votes, for chrissakes. That's only 13 more
than WE had.

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Old 12-09-21, 04:40 PM
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Current Standings (mass update, December 9th):
(1): 9-844 kenbuzz (Bob Dole, Beverly Cleary, Cloris Leachman, Ed Asner, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda)
(2): 9-867 movieguru (Betty Lynn, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, George Shultz, Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Moore (Captain))
(3): 6-488 AaronHernandez (Bill Freehan, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Lina Wertmiller, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [up 3]
(4): 6-548 JoeySeven (Bob Dole, Donald Rumsfeld, George Shultz, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Walter Mondale) [up 3]
(5): 6-559 printerati (Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [down 2]
(6): 6-561 John Galt (Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [down 2]
(7): 5-470 Max Bottomtime (Cloris Leachman, Gloria Henry, Hank Aaron, Prince Philip, Tommy Lasorda) [up 1]
(8): 5-486 Coral (Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Jean-Paul Belmondo, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip) [up 2]
(9): 4-368 IDrinkMolson (Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Tommy Lasorda) [down 4]
(10): 4-386 tommyp007 (Bob Dole, Cloris Leachman, Hal Holbrook, Prince Philip) [down 1]
(11): 3-266 pkgman (Bernie Madoff, Ed Asner, Tommy Lasorda)
(12): 3-275 GoldenJCJ (Bob Dole, Christopher Plummer, Hank Aaron)
(13): 3-280 EdTheRipper (Beverly Cleary, Clarence Williams III, Hal Holbrook) [up 1]
(14): 3-286 truman328 (Bob Dole, Hal Holbrook, Tommy Lasorda) [down 1]
(15): 2-200 Paff (Cloris Leachman, Norman Lloyd)
(16): 1-98 jpcamb (Bob Dole) [up 1]
(17): 1-104 DaveNinja (Beverly Cleary) [down 1]
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Barring a natural disaster centered on Hollywood, it looks like it's gonna be me or movieguru. With 22 days left in 2021, here are the celebs in play:

Unique to me:
- Betty White
- Bob Barker
- Carles Puigdemont
- Gina Lollobrigida
- Joanne Woodward
- Olivia Newton-John
- Queen Elizabeth II

Unique to movieguru:
- Dick Van Dyke
- Gene Shalit
- Larry Storch
- Marsha Hunt
- Nichelle Nichols
- Peter Marshall
- Shannen Doherty
Old 12-09-21, 07:42 PM
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Re: Dead pool 2021

For future planning, here's the list of celebs that appear on four or more of our lists:

Jimmy Carter (14)
Betty White (11)
Bob Barker (11)
Bob Dole (10)
Henry Kissinger (10)
Mel Brooks (9)
Prince Philip (9)
Dick Van Dyke (8)
Hal Holbrook (8)
Tommy Lasorda (8)
Angela Lansbury (7)
Rush Limbaugh (7)
Beverly Cleary (5)
Jerry Lee Lewis (5)
Norman Lear (5)
Norman Lloyd (5)
Willie Mays (5)
Bill Cosby (4)
Cloris Leachman (4)
Eva Marie Saint (4)
Harvey Weinstein (4)
Tony Bennett (4)
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Originally Posted by kenbuzz View Post
Barring a natural disaster centered on Hollywood, it looks like it's gonna be me or movieguru. With 22 days left in 2021, here are the celebs in play:

Unique to me:
- Betty White
- Bob Barker
- Carles Puigdemont
- Gina Lollobrigida
- Joanne Woodward
- Olivia Newton-John
- Queen Elizabeth II

Unique to movieguru:
- Dick Van Dyke
- Gene Shalit
- Larry Storch
- Marsha Hunt
- Nichelle Nichols
- Peter Marshall
- Shannen Doherty
I think we were down to the wire last year as well. I believe since we've been doing these pools, I've came in second nearly every time, losing by whatever tie breaker rule I came up with for that year's pool. It looks like we have four members vying for the third place position with six correct pics each. any new unique hits could pull one of them ahead.

I'll be curious how the new rules will change everyone's picks and strategy. It will make it a slight bit more difficult or just require a little thinking into the choices.
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Re: Dead pool 2021

The NYT annual list of noteworthy deaths of the year is up:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...le-deaths.html

I try and skim it every year as there are always a few that are meaningful that I somehow missed when they happened. The only one that jumped out at me that I had missed this year was Phil Saviano, the Catholic clergy abuse activist from Boston who was critical to the "Spotlight" investigation.
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Michael Nesmith, Monkees’ singer and guitarist, dead at 78. That just leaves Mickey Dolenz (who is 76).

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/enter...ead/index.html
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Wait!?! Davy Jones is dead?

Marsha will be heartbroken.

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Here's the new rules for the 2022 Dead Pool:

Each member chooses 20 celebrities grouped by their ages. There will be six different groups. GROUP ONE (1.5 POINTS PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE TWO PEOPEL BORN AFTER JANUARY 1, 1962. GROUP TWO (1.25 POINTS PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE TWO PEOPLE BORN AFTER JANUARY 1, 1952. GROUP THREE (1 POINT PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE TRHEE PEOPLE BORN AFTER JANUARY 1, 1942. GROUP FOUR (0.75 POINTS PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE THREE PEOPLE BORN AFTER JANUARY 1, 1932. GROUP FIVE (0.5 POINTS PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE FIVE PEOPLE BORN AFTER JANUARY 1, 1922. GROUP SIX (0.25 POINTS PER CORRECT HIT): CHOOSE FIVE PEOPLE OF ANY AGE.

Any choices that are placed in the incorrect groups will not count toward the total number of correct hits or the point structure.

If any players have the exact same number of correct hits, the player with the highest number of points and the most correct hits will be declared the winner.

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Re: Dead pool 2021

I only follow, don't play, so my take may be meaningless...but isn't choosing 5 that are 100+ going to be a bit difficult?
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this sounds like its going to be a lot more work than copy/pasting my list from last year and adding one person. I'll have to look up birthdates!
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Re: Dead pool 2021

Author Anne Rice, dead at 80.

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sad to hear about Anne Rice. Did not realize she was that old or had a stroke. She was one of my favorite authors for a time.
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this sounds like its going to be a lot more work than copy/pasting my list from last year and adding one person. I'll have to look up birthdates!
It was supposed to say born "after" the date and not "before" the date. The goal was to have people pick a few younger people and not all 90 to 100 year olds. The idea was to have people pick a few people in their 60's and 70's. The tie breaker point system was just to make it easier to tabulate.

Do we want to revise the rules to make it easier to pick?
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I like the idea of the new rule so someone just doesnt pick the 20 remaining WWI vets for their list but a point system based on those age breakdowns might be easier for people. A 30-40 year old should be worth 5+ as many 90+ year olds since its more of a long shot.
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I posted this in the 2022 thread. I think this revision would best reflect the opinions everyone's had as well as allow for a little variety as only two younger people need to be chosen. I think i had at least two on the current years and I might even have more on the 2022 list. It will also give us the opportunity to appreciate some of the younger ones that are still with us but may not be for much longer.

Post in the 2022 thread if you are ok with those rules and we'll make it official.

"Ok, so let's do this since the original rules were universally unpopular..... 20 picks. The first two on the list have to be under 70 as of January 1, 2022. The other 18 can be any age. To simplify the tie breaker, we will add the ages at time of death of the four youngest correct picks. Lowest number wins any tie breaker. That will make it easier to tabulate so we don't have to keep changing numbers every death and don't have to start counting ages until more than one person gets four correct picks."
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With 8 days left, I just did a quick look-see at the 14 most important celebs left in this thread:

Unique to me:
- Betty White - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_White
- Bob Barker - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Barker
- Carles Puigdemont - ALIVE (though I expect Franco's Guardia Civil are lurking in Sardinia to try off him before extradition to Madrid) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carles_Puigdemont
- Gina Lollobrigida - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Lollobrigida
- Joanne Woodward - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_Woodward
- Olivia Newton-John - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Newton-John
- Queen Elizabeth II - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

Unique to movieguru:
- Dick Van Dyke - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Van_Dyke
- Gene Shalit - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Shalit
- Larry Storch - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Storch
- Marsha Hunt - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha...ess,_born_1917)
- Nichelle Nichols - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichelle_Nichols
- Peter Marshall - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_...l_(entertainer)
- Shannen Doherty - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannen_Doherty
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Originally Posted by kenbuzz View Post
With 8 days left, I just did a quick look-see at the 14 most important celebs left in this thread:

Unique to me:
- Betty White - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_White
- Bob Barker - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Barker
- Carles Puigdemont - ALIVE (though I expect Franco's Guardia Civil are lurking in Sardinia to try off him before extradition to Madrid) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carles_Puigdemont
- Gina Lollobrigida - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Lollobrigida
- Joanne Woodward - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_Woodward
- Olivia Newton-John - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Newton-John
- Queen Elizabeth II - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

Unique to movieguru:
- Dick Van Dyke - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Van_Dyke
- Gene Shalit - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Shalit
- Larry Storch - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Storch
- Marsha Hunt - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha...ess,_born_1917)
- Nichelle Nichols - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichelle_Nichols
- Peter Marshall - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_...l_(entertainer)
- Shannen Doherty - ALIVE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannen_Doherty
We're down to the wire. Any death from the above will tip the scales in this contest.

I didn't realize that Marsh Hunt was in Star Trek. She was in a first season episode of TNG, playing the wife of a retired admiral who was taking some serum to make himself younger.
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Desmond Mpilo Tutu, the Nobel Peace laureate whose moral might permeated South African society during apartheid's darkest hours and into the unchartered territory of new democracy, died on Sunday. He was 90.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-afr...071328707.html


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