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Old 08-09-19, 08:05 AM
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Mabuse goes South

As I’ve mentioned here and there in some other threads, I am embarking on a trip through the American South. 14 day road trip through nearly a dozen states.

Last night I crossed into the South. So far I’m only in Northernmost Texas. So not much to report yet. Still have to drive across Oklahoma before getting into Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, and back into deep Texas.

The only thing I’ve noticed in my scant 4 hours in the Texas panhandle is that Texans play up to the stereotype. Every limousine in Amarillo has enormous bull horns on the hood. Silly. But then again we Californians have been know to play to a stereotype or two.

I venture forward in the coming days in the spirit of education. Eduacting myself about a corner of the country I’ve always viewed with suspicion, and bearing witness to historical places that haunt our history. My only concern is that in these turbulent times some of the places I venture will be attracting nuisance people, protests, or trouble. The Oklahoma City Memorial, Loraine Motel, Dealey Plaza, Andrew Jackson’s plantation, Vicksburg Battlefield, etc. But I doubt it.


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What part of Missouri? I travel to SW Missouri every year (Branson/Table Rock Lake area). Reeds Spring Pizza is well worth a stop.
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I hope that you enjoy your trip, Mabuse!

I've PMed you about it.
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this would be way more interesting if you pulled a Top Gear...



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I wouldn't consider Missouri "the South". I hope you have a good time.
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Just Missouri? I was going to break out my long-gestating “Mabuse Went Down to Georgia” lyrics.
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https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2220

If you didn’t hit up Cadillac Ranch, your off to a poor start

And it’s a little early to hit up Texas generalizations. Oh we got some that are accurate, but west Texas is very different. Texas is similar to California. Several different areas from the Cowboys to the hipsters.

Oh, and if you have the time when n Dallas the tour of ATT stadium is well worth it,
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Texas is the South in the same way Orange County is the South: geographically speaking.

To get to the actual South, you have to be in Mississippi (or further points east).
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It was 29 years ago, so a lot has changed, but when driving through Amarillo in 1990, I found a bangin' alternative rock station. So yeah, not everything there is country music and other Texas stereotypes.
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It was 29 years ago, so a lot has changed, but when driving through Amarillo in 1990, I found a bangin' alternative rock station. So yeah, not everything there is country music and other Texas stereotypes.
Coincidentally, it was also 29 years ago when anyone used the adjective 'bangin' ...
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Oh, and if you have the time when n Dallas the tour of ATT stadium is well worth it,
OT but, if I wanted to go see a game, in Dallas, what's the best way to get a ticket? A ticket to the game, not plane ticket.
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Texas is the South in the same way Orange County is the South: geographically speaking.

To get to the actual South, you have to be in Mississippi (or further points east).
Arkansas and Louisiana are southern, but you really need east of the Mississippi to get the true south.


In OKC stop by Cattlemans for a steak. And in Tulsa their new park district on the river is supposed to be really nice.
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Coincidentally, it was also 29 years ago when anyone used the adjective 'bangin' ...

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I wouldn't consider Missouri "the South". I hope you have a good time.
Then what would you consider it? New England?
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Coincidentally, it was also 29 years ago when anyone used the adjective 'bangin' ...

I use that all the time with reference to women and good food.

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Then what would you consider it? New England?
If it didn't secede, it isn't part of The South.
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Then what would you consider it? New England?
The Midwest. I wouldn't consider Kentucky as "the South", either.
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Are you going to be trying all the different kinds of BBQ on your journey?
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If it didn't secede, it isn't part of The South.
It was a slave state and (at least partially) fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War. Itís the South to me.
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I'd consider Missouri to be part of the "South." It was a slave state and supported the Confederacy. But it sort of straddles the "South" and "Midwest."

Whereas its neighbor, Kansas, rejected slavery and fought on the side of the Union. (And there's a very interesting history there that essentially sparked the Civil War with "Bleeding Kansas," John Brown, Popular Sovereignty, Border Ruffians, etc.)

Of course, if 1860s Kansas had the same political make-up it does today, the voters likely would have voted in favor of Kansas becoming a slave state, seceded form the Union, and joined the Confederacy.
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I can see why Missouri could be considered part of the Midwest, but Kentucky is most definitely a “southern” state.
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Texas is the South in the same way Orange County is the South: geographically speaking.

To get to the actual South, you have to be in Mississippi (or further points east).
Texas is the South in the sense that it was a confederate state during the Civil War.

If you read my post it plainly states we will be going to Mississippi, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

FYI, Missouri was split and sent soldiers to fight for both sides. Kentucky made every attempt to remain neutral, but eventually sent troops to support the confederacy.

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Thanks for the tips guys.

Went to OKC Memorial today. Very moving. Very well done. Very detailed. Very beautiful.
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Enjoy your trip, Mabuse.

My folks have lived in both north Iowa near the Minnesota state line and south Iowa only 8 miles from the Missouri state line. I went to Missouri a few times while crashing at their pad in-between moves and grad school for a few weeks. Yeah, it is definitely not the Midwest. It's the South, through and through. That's not pejorative, simply observational.
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Coincidentally, it was also 29 years ago when anyone used the adjective 'bangin' ...
Buncha friggin comedians in this forum...
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