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Old 04-12-19, 12:55 PM
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Friend's boss just passed away

He was scheduled for heart valve surgery on Monday but had an infection and just passed away.

He was an attorney and my friend was his executive secretary for about 20 years.

He worked without another attorney so I don't know will what happen next.

Looks like she lost her job and will have no income coming in because she can't collect unemployment insurance and just got a new furnace and another car so I don't know what too tell her.
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Old 04-12-19, 01:41 PM
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Tell your friend you're sorry for her (job) loss. Suggest she sell the car, but perhaps keep the furnace.
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Why can't she collect unemployment?
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With twenty years experience as a legal secretary she could go apply to other law firms.
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As long as she didn't quit there is no reason she can't collect unemployment.
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Unless she was being paid under the table.
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Tell your friend you're sorry for her (job) loss. Suggest she sell the car, but perhaps keep the furnace.
I'm sure she doesn't have to cremate him herself.
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Unless she was being paid under the table.
An attorney break the law?! That's unpossible.

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Old 04-12-19, 07:06 PM
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Make sure she gives her two week notice.
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must be a sparse selection of friend's boss' demise condolences cards out there.
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He was scheduled for heart valve surgery on Monday but had an infection and just passed away.

He was an attorney and my friend was his executive secretary for about 20 years.

He worked without another attorney so I don't know will what happen next.

Looks like she lost her job and will have no income coming in because she can't collect unemployment insurance and just got a new furnace and another car so I don't know what too tell her.
Did he leave a will and, if so, is she in it at all?
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The guy's clients are in a bit of lurch too.

Hopefully, as an attorney, he set up some kind of plan for his demise, either a will or trust, and, again hopefully, it sets up some kind of plan for handling existing clients. She should check with the family, see who is in charge as executor or trustee, as to what plans are.

If she is willing, she should offer to stay on for a while (getting paid obviously) to assist in orderly disposition of ongoing cases, records, etc.. Then the wind-down is likely to be slow enough that she can determine when to start applying for other jobs. She has the most detailed knowledge of the current state of the business, and her knowledge would likely be helpful. making the offer win-win.
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With twenty years experience as a legal secretary she could go apply to other law firms.
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The guy's clients are in a bit of lurch too.

Hopefully, as an attorney, he set up some kind of plan for his demise, either a will or trust, and, again hopefully, it sets up some kind of plan for handling existing clients. She should check with the family, see who is in charge as executor or trustee, as to what plans are.

If she is willing, she should offer to stay on for a while (getting paid obviously) to assist in orderly disposition of ongoing cases, records, etc.. Then the wind-down is likely to be slow enough that she can determine when to start applying for other jobs. She has the most detailed knowledge of the current state of the business, and her knowledge would likely be helpful. making the offer win-win.
There you go.
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Never heard of him.
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Old 04-13-19, 09:40 AM
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She can't collect unemployment because it was a small firm and the company has to pay into the unemployment fund for laid off employees to collect off it. I don't know if there is a limit to how many employees must work at a company to collect.

I don't know about a will because I haven't talked to her since his passing.

I would think she would stay on to help his wife sort out all the clients,bills,etc.

I don't know if she will be able to get remaining vacation pay owed for the rest of the year but that probably is a low priority for right now.
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Old 04-13-19, 11:40 AM
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Must be state dependent because in CA you pay for unemployment insurance, either at the end of the year due to lack of withholding or manually each pay period.

now that I re-read your message I guess the employer either the employer can be exempt under certain criteria or they just didnít pay what they were supposed to.

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Yeah, that's strange about the unemployment insurance.

Here, you and your employer each pay half. It doesn't matter how many employees there are.

If you're self employed, you pay both portions.
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I think not being eligible for unemployment is odd. I was a legal assistant years ago to a sole practitioner lawyer, and he paid unemployment for his "firm" with two employees. I wonder if the lawyer here flaked on other programs that require payment, such as workman's comp.
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Old 04-13-19, 03:55 PM
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I think not being eligible for unemployment is odd. I was a legal assistant years ago to a sole practitioner lawyer, and he paid unemployment for his "firm" with two employees. I wonder if the lawyer here flaked on other programs that require payment, such as workman's comp.
She told me before that she couldn't collect unemployment?

Can people who work at McDonald's or BK (fulltime )collect unemployment?

She didn't have health benefits either(paid out of own pocket).
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McDonalds/Burger King employees get unemployment.

If she as a contractor, she wouldn’t get unemployment, but if she was an employee she should.
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The legal secretarial vocation is in decline due to the rising popularity of paralegals. If your friend is in her forties or fifties my advice to her as a career admin of nearly 36 years is to sign with every temp agency in her city and try to get a new gig that way. It's what I would do and have done more than once.
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The legal secretarial vocation is in decline due to the rising popularity of paralegals. If your friend is in her forties or fifties my advice to her as a career admin of nearly 36 years is to sign with every temp agency in her city and try to get a new gig that way. It's what I would do and have done more than once.
Depends where you are. In some states, it's a degree, but in other's there is no certification to become a paralegal, and someone who has been doing it for decades likely is one.
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Old 04-14-19, 11:20 AM
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Sounds like the boss didn't give two flying fucks about her working exclusively for him for 20 years and didn't care about her future at all.
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Is this the boss?

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