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Old 03-12-19, 11:08 AM
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Felicity Huffman (and dozens of others) arrested/charged with fraud - College Admissions

Not sure if this was posted elsewhere but...WOW!

Actresses Lori Loughlin, Felicity Huffman among 40 charged in college exam cheating plot



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...g-plot-n982136


https://www.wcvb.com/article/actress...andal/26796604

Prominent entertainers, business owners and college coaches are implicated in the scandal that involves boosting SAT scores and bribing college administrators, according to the criminal complaint.

Prosecutors say parents paid admissions consultant William Singer, of Newport Beach, Calif., $25 million from 2011 through Feb. 2019 to bribe coaches and administrators to label their children as recruited athletes to boost their chances of getting into schools.

Lelling said parents also paid the consultant to have other people take college admission exams for their children or correct incorrect answers on tests before they were submitted.

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The fact that they could make money doing this is sad. Paying for higher test scores won't make their children smarter.
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Hey!!! If you people would just "Pull yourself up by your BOOTSTRAPS" then you too can pay for bribes to College Admins and higher test scores,...
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Old 03-12-19, 11:23 AM
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The fact that they could make money doing this is sad. Paying for higher test scores won't make their children smarter.
I mean, the money they put into this...they couldn't just hire tutors who were acclaimed? I'm really baffled. These were two of my favorite actors, as they've been around for decades and appeared in several movies and tv shows.

Also, are their kids that dumb.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei View Post
I mean, the money they put into this...they couldn't just hire tutors who were acclaimed? I'm really baffled. These were two of my favorite actors, as they've been around for decades and appeared in several movies and tv shows.

Also, are their kids that dumb.
Maybe they tried tutors and their kids WERE that dumb.
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No offense, but if you have $6m, just donate the money to build something or another and your child will get in.
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Danger View Post
The fact that they could make money doing this is sad. Paying for higher test scores won't make their children smarter.
I agree with this, but the college admission process is pretty tight and a lot of deserving or "smart" students don't get in for one reason or another. And once you're in, it's actually shockingly difficult to flunk out.
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Danger View Post
The fact that they could make money doing this is sad. Paying for higher test scores won't make their children smarter.
Sadly, that's irrelevant. - The hardest part of a "top" college is getting in. Once you're there, all you need to do is the bare minimum to rack up C's and D's. As long as you show up and try to do your work, they won't fail you. Then, once you made it all the way through and graduate, all that matters from there is the name of the school on the diploma.
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Originally Posted by D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB) View Post
No offense, but if you have $6m, just donate the money to build something or another and your child will get in.

​​​​​​​You'd think William H. Macy would have told his wife (Felicity) something along those lines. He probably is today.
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Sadly, that's irrelevant. - The hardest part of a "top" college is getting in. Once you're there, all you need to do is the bare minimum to rack up C's and D's. As long as you show up and try to do your work, they won't fail you. Then, once you made it all the way through and graduate, all that matters from there is the name of the school on the diploma.
Don't most schools require a 2.0 average to graduate? Meaning all Cs and Ds won't be enough to graduate.
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Investigators also say that in many instances, Singer instructed the parents that they could write off their "donations" to his non-profit in their tax returns.
Not smart. Now it's an IRS issue, too.

Per TMZ:

As for Loughlin, she and her husband -- Mossimo Giannulli, the founder of Mossimo clothing -- allegedly paid $500,000 to have their 2 daughters designated as recruits for the crew team at USC ... despite the fact they did not actually participate in crew. However, the feds say Mossimo sent action photos of their daughters on rowing machines.
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I think William H. Macy is going to be named shortly....

Sounds like a Shameless episode.
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Also, are their kids that dumb.
"Too dumb to get into Stanford" isnt really that dumb.
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Old 03-12-19, 11:59 AM
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The weird thing is, how crappy is the crew team at USC if they took two kids who had never done crew before, and nobody noticed?
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I don't understand why this is a big deal? Isn't this how it's always been? Rich parents getting their kids into colleges they otherwise would never have been admitted to?
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I don't understand why this is a big deal? Isn't this how it's always been? Rich parents getting their kids into colleges they otherwise would never have been admitted to?
There are legal ways vs illegal ways. Bribes are illegal. Donations are legal.
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I don't understand why this is a big deal? Isn't this how it's always been? Rich parents getting their kids into colleges they otherwise would never have been admitted to?

Exactly. One wonders why this is suddenly an issue. It's just AFFIRMATIVE ACTION for Rich Folks.

There must be something deeper going on here. Someone is snitching to take everyone down.
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This is the difference:


The side door instead of the back door.
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Originally Posted by D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB) View Post

There are legal ways vs illegal ways. Bribes are illegal. Donations are legal.
Or just have parents who went to school there.
Harvard's incoming freshman class is one-third legacy
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
This is the difference:

https://twitter.com/OsitaNwanevu/status/1105492635345653760

The side door instead of the back door.
Looks like some of these celebs are gonna get the back door now.

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This is some sad shit...

Twitter thread:

Huffman and Macy also seem to have abused the disability accommodations provisions of the SAT to facilitate their cheating—getting their daughter extra time on the test, and using that as a pretext to put in place the crooked proctor who fixed the test scores.

From the fake fdn's GuideStar page: "With programs that are designed to assist young people in every day situations, and educational situations, we hope to open new avenues of educational access to students that would normally have no access to these programs."

Well, yeah.

Also: "Our contributions to major athletic university programs, may help to provide placement to students that may not have access under normal channels."

Again, that's one way to put it.

What really burns me, though, is Huffman and Macy's abuse of the disability accommodations process. Using such accommodations as a backdoor to cheating your way into college poisons the well, and screws over honest kids—both with and without disabilities.
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This amount of fraud is almost Presidential in its scope.

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I think William H. Macy is going to be named shortly....

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This is amount of fraud is almost Presidential in its scope.
Yup. These are very important matters and we should be outraged.
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