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Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

Old 02-11-19, 04:32 PM
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Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

I find it kinda lame, how about you?
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

Reeks of unearned arrogance.
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

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Reeks of unearned arrogance.
I totally agree. I just saw a person in my industry (technology) use it and thought it was lame. I get it, you are smart. But you don't do medicine. Sorry Doctor!
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

I'm kind of tossed... I didn't have a problem with referring to my university profs as Dr. McKay, Dr. Dawes, etc.

If someone introduced themselves to me as Dr. Smith, in an everyday situation, and they weren't an MD, I would think that wasn't right. At the same time, depending on the circumstances, I'd also probably ask them what type of doctor they are, just to clear it up.

In written form, it should be, as an example, John Smith, PhD. If I read Dr. John Smith, I would expect them to be an MD.

The other thing I don't like is 'other' doctors... Doctor of Chiropractic, for example.
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Technically, they are doctors, but doctors of philosophy, not medicine. I disagree vehemently with funkyryno that it's "unearned", but it does smack of pomposity. Most doctorates do the John Smith, Ph.D. thing, but again, only in instances where it's relevant, as also holds true for MDs.
In Germany, it was, and might still be, common for those with doctoral degrees to label even personal correspondence with "Herr Doktor Professor", which is eye-rollingly conceited.
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

Didn’t we have a thread about this before? This sounds very familiar.
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I'm kind of tossed... I didn't have a problem with referring to my university profs as Dr. McKay, Dr. Dawes, etc.

If someone introduced themselves to me as Dr. Smith, in an everyday situation, and they weren't an MD, I would think that wasn't right. At the same time, depending on the circumstances, I'd also probably ask them what type of doctor they are, just to clear it up.

In written form, it should be, as an example, John Smith, PhD. If I read Dr. John Smith, I would expect them to be an MD.

The other thing I don't like is 'other' doctors... Doctor of Chiropractic, for example.
Ha, we simultaneously used the same generic name.
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Didn’t we have a thread about this before? This sounds very familiar.
I did a massive search before posting this. I thought so too, but couldn't find it.
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I'm kind of tossed... I didn't have a problem with referring to my university profs as Dr. McKay, Dr. Dawes, etc.

If someone introduced themselves to me as Dr. Smith, in an everyday situation, and they weren't an MD, I would think that wasn't right. At the same time, depending on the circumstances, I'd also probably ask them what type of doctor they are, just to clear it up.

In written form, it should be, as an example, John Smith, PhD. If I read Dr. John Smith, I would expect them to be an MD.

The other thing I don't like is 'other' doctors... Doctor of Chiropractic, for example.
I kinda agree with most of this. My a few of my professors are Dr. ______ and I get that. I know they aren't medical doctors. But for a guy just out there to call himself Dr John Doe, Chief Bore at XYZ company, is pompous.

Edited to add: Checking the guys LinkedIn, he does not refer to himself as a Dr. (it's under education, PH.D.) however in text descriptions that are not really bios or wordy, he's listed as Dr. John Doe.
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Old 02-11-19, 05:23 PM
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

I work with several PhD's. None of them use the Dr. prefix. I'll sometimes to someone as "Dr. _____" to tweak them a bit.
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

In academia, yes. In medicine, yes. The rest of the time, no.

My sister is a professor and a competitive runner. She doesn't go around the marathon crowd and introduce herself as Dr. Smith.
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Only when trying to get a reservation. “Yes, I’d like a table for DOCTOR Hercules Longdong.”
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In specific settings, it’s ok, like if you’re giving a speech or on your book cover. Otherwise seems pretentious. In my office, I think at least 4 out 9 are PhD’s, it’s not a secret as it’s somewhat useful in an academc setting, but no one who knows any of them calls them that and it is pretty weird when someone comes in and asks for Dr... A lotnof people do seem to call the College President by Dr, but I think that’s a special case.

My wife’s a veterinarian, used to never use it, but now mostly uses it at work with clients (although most places she works the staff want to use that too), no other place or time.

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Didn’t we have a thread about this before? This sounds very familiar.
Yeah, wasn't it about email or something like that?
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Slightly off the subject, but I do believe it to be ok to ask "What's up, Doc?" when greeting these individuals.
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Re: Using Dr. prefix when you have a PH.D?

When I was in kindergarten, the school superintendent was Dr. Somethingorother.

And I was afraid he’d come into the classroom and give me a shot.
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Since you paid the outrageous $$$ to get it, use it every goddamn moment you can.
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Ha, we simultaneously used the same generic name.
Great Canadian minds think alike, eh?

I actually initially had Dr. X, but I wanted a first name and a surname, so I changed it to John Smith.
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I is a high school gradjeeut. so take this as you will. I think the old etiquette rule is not to use the Doctor title socially unless you're an MD. So using it in a professional setting would be okay.
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People often assume that if someone is a doctor, it means they are some sort of medical doctor; but it does also refer to other educational disiplines as well. In a profession setting it may be ok to refer to someone with the doctor prefix, but I would never refer to someone with the doctor prefix in a person setting even if that person insisted. If they had a problem with it, I really wouldn't care. The same would go for someone insisting on being referred to as "Maestro" or as "Captain" if they were a pilot. Same goes for those that have a high military rank.

Same thing goes for royals of other countries. To me it would seem if a royal of another country visited the U.S., they have no power in the U.S. so referring to them as 'Your Heiness", would be like you were pledging alegience to their country over your own. A few years back William and Kate came to the U.S. and met with some American celebrity. A big news story came out of it that said the celebrity broke British royal protocol in some way during the meeting. My first though was they are in the U.S., their royal status means nothing here and they have no real power here so no protocol was broken.
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Originally Posted by andicus View Post
I'm kind of tossed... I didn't have a problem with referring to my university profs as Dr. McKay, Dr. Dawes, etc.

If someone introduced themselves to me as Dr. Smith, in an everyday situation, and they weren't an MD, I would think that wasn't right. At the same time, depending on the circumstances, I'd also probably ask them what type of doctor they are, just to clear it up.
Yeah, I work in academia and have a doctorate. Students generally address me as "Doctor" or "Professor". But to even think of expecting people outside of the academic setting to use those titles seems incredibly obnoxious.

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In Germany, it was, and might still be, common for those with doctoral degrees to label even personal correspondence with "Herr Doktor Professor", which is eye-rollingly conceited.
Herr Doktor Professor ... I love it!!! Now I know what I want everyone to address me as from this point forward!
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I've got a Bachelors degree and that was a bitch. As far as I'm concerned anybody who can successfully complete a PH.D can call themselves anything they want.
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Originally Posted by funkyryno View Post
Reeks of unearned arrogance.
Why is it "unearned"? A doctorate is a doctorate. If you're annoyed by this, call "doctors" physicians. A "doctor" has historically meant an "authority" of any certain subject, not necessarily medicine.
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Originally Posted by funkyryno View Post
Reeks of unearned arrogance.
Unearned arrogance? No. Earned arrogance? Sure.

Depends on the situation to me. If you're introducing yourself as "Dr." to me at a party, you're probably a douche. If you're my professor or my medical doctor, you should be called "Dr."
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