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Old 02-11-19, 11:03 AM
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Man falls into tank of acid. (SPOILER: Does not become the Joker)

Definitely not a good way to go.


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The man, who has not yet been identified,
Well, no shit he hasn't been identified. HE FELL IN A TANK OF SULFURIC ACID, dumbass!
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Damn what a horrible way to go.
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It was also 160 degrees? Yikes.
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This is gruesome stuff!

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When it comes to soft tissue, select acids and bases – typically H2SO4, HCl, NaOH, and KOH – wreak destruction via hydrolysis of large biomolecules (such as proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and nucleic acids), with possible further demolition of smaller units. Alkaline hydrolysis is considered to have the edge over techniques involving acid (and is preferred in legitimate animal carcass disposal),* most likely because of the increased cleavage of the disulfide bonds that are key for the structural integrity of proteins.

This better cleavage also explains why bases breakdown hair and nails more quickly than acids. Hair is primarily composed of keratin proteins, which are packed with the amino acid cysteine and therefore have extensive disulfide bonds. These contribute to the strength and stability of keratin, and help to resist solubilisation by solvents that readily dissolve other proteins. Disufide bonds, however, fall prey to alkaline hydrolysis: hair dissolves in minutes in bleach or NaOH (something anyone with a blocked sink or shower knows). Nails are also full of keratin; as with hair, researchers have observed they are more susceptible to destruction by bases than acids.1

Acids at very low pH beat bases when it comes to destroying bone and teeth,1-5 most likely because of the greater solubility of calcium apatites in acidic conditions. However, destruction of bone in acidic conditions is no quick job;1-3 at room temperature and atmospheric pressure, it can take nearly a day – or longer, depending on the acid – for bone to dissolve when fully submerged. A team led by Cristina Cattaneo from the University of Milan, Italy, has examined the effect of acid and base immersion on porcine bones macroscopically, microscopically, and chemically.2-3 They noted differences in appearance (macro- and microscopically) and the degree of damage between acids and bases used in their study. Essentially, while acids to a better job in dissolving bone, highly concentrated and strong bases still cause significant damage. Cattaneo’s group described the aftermath of using alkaline solutions on bone in the Journal of Forensic Science thus: ‘At first glance, bone appeared structurally intact, but extremely fragile as complete and immediate crumbling occurred with a simple touch’.2 I describe it as feeling similar to, and as easy as, crumbling shortbread.
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Raiders Of The Lost Ark vids would work.
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Apparently I’m too stupid to figure out how to post photos.



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Fire Chief Robert Vogel said Hill was working near a large vat of 10-12 percent sulfuric acid solution heated to at least 160 degrees.

"Other employees, co-workers saw him in the tank," Vogel said. "He was completely submerged and was 100 percent covered in burns. The gentleman was trying to get out. They ran and grabbed him and pulled him out."

The employees put Hill under a safety shower. Medics then transported him to the University of Michigan Hospital in Ann Arbor, where he died roughly 11 hours later from his injuries.

"He was speaking when we were there," Vogel said. "He was walking and talking. Unfortunately, he passed. It was pretty extreme burns."
It was unclear how Hill ended up in the vat and how long it was before he was rescued, Vogel said.

The co-workers who assisted Hill sustained burns to their hands, Vogel said. Medics treated them at the scene.
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I can’t believe they were able to get him out and that he was still walking and talking at all. That’s almost worse that he had to endure eleven hours of what had to be sheer misery. Although I’m guessing he was barely alive by that point. Sad for sure.
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Jesus, that's horrific. He could still talk and walk after that and lived for 11 hours? Damn...
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I can’t believe they were able to get him out and that he was still walking and talking at all. That’s almost worse that he had to endure eleven hours of what had to be sheer misery. Although I’m guessing he was barely alive by that point. Sad for sure.
This. My wife worked on a burn unit at a hospital. Heat burns are bad shit. Electric burns are horrifying (literally cooks the tissue from the inside out). Chemical burns, ugh ... sick and sad to say, but he would have been better off dying instantly. Not only would he have the chemical burns and the heat burns externally, but he would have internal chemical burns from inhaling the vapors, etc.
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This. My wife worked on a burn unit at a hospital. Heat burns are bad shit. Electric burns are horrifying (literally cooks the tissue from the inside out). Chemical burns, ugh ... sick and sad to say, but he would have been better off dying instantly. Not only would he have the chemical burns and the heat burns externally, but he would have internal chemical burns from inhaling the vapors, etc.
Reminds me of what happened to Travis Barker about a decade ago in the plane crash. Trying to get out of the plane, he jumped into the jet fuel and went up like dry tree. Said he was coughing jet fuel taste for months.
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This is gruesome stuff!

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When it comes to soft tissue, select acids and bases – typically H2SO4, HCl, NaOH, and KOH – wreak destruction via hydrolysis of large biomolecules (such as proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and nucleic acids), with possible further demolition of smaller units. Alkaline hydrolysis is considered to have the edge over techniques involving acid (and is preferred in legitimate animal carcass disposal),* most likely because of the increased cleavage of the disulfide bonds that are key for the structural integrity of proteins.

This better cleavage also explains why bases breakdown hair and nails more quickly than acids. Hair is primarily composed of keratin proteins, which are packed with the amino acid cysteine and therefore have extensive disulfide bonds. These contribute to the strength and stability of keratin, and help to resist solubilisation by solvents that readily dissolve other proteins. Disufide bonds, however, fall prey to alkaline hydrolysis: hair dissolves in minutes in bleach or NaOH (something anyone with a blocked sink or shower knows). Nails are also full of keratin; as with hair, researchers have observed they are more susceptible to destruction by bases than acids.1

Acids at very low pH beat bases when it comes to destroying bone and teeth,1-5 most likely because of the greater solubility of calcium apatites in acidic conditions. However, destruction of bone in acidic conditions is no quick job;1-3 at room temperature and atmospheric pressure, it can take nearly a day – or longer, depending on the acid – for bone to dissolve when fully submerged. A team led by Cristina Cattaneo from the University of Milan, Italy, has examined the effect of acid and base immersion on porcine bones macroscopically, microscopically, and chemically.2-3 They noted differences in appearance (macro- and microscopically) and the degree of damage between acids and bases used in their study. Essentially, while acids to a better job in dissolving bone, highly concentrated and strong bases still cause significant damage. Cattaneo’s group described the aftermath of using alkaline solutions on bone in the Journal of Forensic Science thus: ‘At first glance, bone appeared structurally intact, but extremely fragile as complete and immediate crumbling occurred with a simple touch’.2 I describe it as feeling similar to, and as easy as, crumbling shortbread.
“Increased cleavage,” “better cleavage,” your post makes death by acid sound much sexier than I was lead to believe.
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Must be a horrible way to die.
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After he came out holy shit:

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Police are now suspecting he may have been pushed or dropped into the cat of acid. They are seeking out BatKid for questioning.
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Must be a horrible way to die.
Way to go out on a limb there, Norm.
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Unfortunately, he passed.

Uh-oh, someone's gonna be pissed.
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Does any story involving a “vat of acid” end well?
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Does any story involving a “vat of acid” end well?

I’m gonna go ahead and say it, acid should not be contained in large open vats! There I said it. Ban my account if you must.

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UPDATE: Still dead. :[
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I'm sure the company wants it to be murder, otherwise, they'll have to admit to OSHA that they had a vat of boiling acid just laying around the shop.
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