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Old 01-06-19, 02:26 PM
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I drink coffee daily. But if I'm IF I drink it black and if I drink it during my eating window I add some half/half or whole cream to it. People who drink coffee break the fast by making it "bulletproof" (adding butter to the coffee) or adding all this extra shit to it. If you're into bulletproof coffee then drink it after you break the fast but not as your first drink of the day. I like bulletproof coffee myself but it's been a long time since I've drank it. I'd rather add the fat of the butter into my actual regular meal, because bulletproof coffee is a meal unto itself.
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Old 01-06-19, 03:37 PM
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I could stand to lose about 40 lbs. I'm 5'10" and 210. I have a belly, but also muscles, so it's a bit of both. I don't care about gaining a six-pack, but I would like to lose the belly fat and moobs, and get back in shape like I used to be.
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Okay...I may try the IF after watching the videos. I can usually go all the way to noon and skip breakfast with no issues. I do tend to snack but that was more of a learned behavior after being told just a few years ago to eat 5 or 6 small meals/snacks a day.

I have a few questions or clarifications after reading what ya'll have said and watching the videos on IF. So do you eat your standard calories? For example, I recently started back counting calories since that seems to be the only thing that works for me. I use the MyFitnessPal app. It has designated for me to hit my goal weight to get approx 1500 calories a day (plus it add in extra from my FitBit from exercise and calories burned throughout the day.

So say you go down to eating the two meals a day. Do you just get your 1500 calories (or whatever your goal is) and split them among the two meals? So say you eat 500 calories for lunch and then 1000 calories for dinner? Or are you supposed to do it a different way?

Also I seem to be getting from ya'll that anything but water will fuck up your fast, is that correct? When do ya'll typically exercise? I usually do in the mornings and sometimes I can do it without eating but sometimes I can't Usually depends on how I feel.

This shit is annoying. First it is low or no fat. Then low carb. Then low or no sugar. Then no artificial sweeteners. Then don't skip breakfast and skip dinner. Then eat 5 or 6 small meals or snacks a day. Then eat just two meals a day and no snacks. And on and on (and I know I missed at least a dozen other examples there).

By the way...for those that are data lovers and bad about getting their water intake...my girlfriend bought me a smart water bottle for xmas and I love the damn thing. I don't really drink anything but water and beer but I am just bad about actually drinking anything. The bottle is called a hidrate spark 2.0 and it is really cool and works with my fitbit. I have actually drank more water in the last week than probably the entire month of December.
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Early 2018 I was 205. In the spring I did a variation of IF making sure I was limiting calories, limiting carbs and not eating 3 hours before bed or within 4 to 5 hours of waking. I lost a good 33 to hit 172. A week later I went on vacation and gained 10 lbs. in 6 days. Although we had some wine with dinners there was only one day where we had frozen drinks by the pool. Other meals were typical. I tried to focus on protein and never went back for seconds. When I got back I continually climbed right back to 198. In the fall I again got serious and dropped to 175. I gained a few back, then went to Florida for a wedding. With what I had gained plus the 5 or 6 I gained in 4 days at the wedding I was back to 185. Christmas got me up to 192 again. I started back to being careful and am 190.4 this morning. Obviously losing is pretty easy for me. Unfortunately so is gaining. Several consultants at both Jenny Craig and Dr. Matt Custom Fat Loss have commented they have never seen someone who can store calories like I can. Yeah for me. As soon as I am taken out of my routine my body just hoards calories and stores fat. I try to be careful but sometimes you have to eat what is there. Instead of a rehearsal dinner they had in informal reception the first night. Nothing but carbs, fried food and fried carbs.

My daughter who is vegan has the self control to not eat if she is somewhere where there isn't anything she can eat. I do not have that willpower.
At any point in your life have you done some lengthy exercise where you pushed yourself to the max, like running a marathon, several days hiking, etc. What happened for me, according to an intuitive doc, was that my body basically re-wrote the way I store calories and burned them because my body expects me to run a marathon again, or hike for a weekend that would be burning 10K calories or more.So, whenever I do exercise of any type...my body goes into survival mode because it thinks I'm getting ready for another major adventure.

So, every day to day eating I can lose calories, and if I do moderate exercise, skipping several days, my body won't be "alerted". But if I try to do a disciplined routine, my body gets super-efficient at storing calories, and if I eat something typical that most people would not gain weight with...I will gain weight because I didn't do a jog for 10 miles that day.

If you haven't done any marathons, or anything that pushed your body to your max, then I'm not sure what's going on, but it does seem in your case, your body is also going into survival mode because of some previous major exercise activity you did in life.
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Okay...I may try the IF after watching the videos. I can usually go all the way to noon and skip breakfast with no issues. I do tend to snack but that was more of a learned behavior after being told just a few years ago to eat 5 or 6 small meals/snacks a day.

I have a few questions or clarifications after reading what ya'll have said and watching the videos on IF. So do you eat your standard calories? For example, I recently started back counting calories since that seems to be the only thing that works for me. I use the MyFitnessPal app. It has designated for me to hit my goal weight to get approx 1500 calories a day (plus it add in extra from my FitBit from exercise and calories burned throughout the day.

So say you go down to eating the two meals a day. Do you just get your 1500 calories (or whatever your goal is) and split them among the two meals? So say you eat 500 calories for lunch and then 1000 calories for dinner? Or are you supposed to do it a different way?

Also I seem to be getting from ya'll that anything but water will fuck up your fast, is that correct? When do ya'll typically exercise? I usually do in the mornings and sometimes I can do it without eating but sometimes I can't Usually depends on how I feel.

This shit is annoying. First it is low or no fat. Then low carb. Then low or no sugar. Then no artificial sweeteners. Then don't skip breakfast and skip dinner. Then eat 5 or 6 small meals or snacks a day. Then eat just two meals a day and no snacks. And on and on (and I know I missed at least a dozen other examples there).

By the way...for those that are data lovers and bad about getting their water intake...my girlfriend bought me a smart water bottle for xmas and I love the damn thing. I don't really drink anything but water and beer but I am just bad about actually drinking anything. The bottle is called a hidrate spark 2.0 and it is really cool and works with my fitbit. I have actually drank more water in the last week than probably the entire month of December.
I don't really count calories anymore since I just eat 2 meals a day now within a 6 hour eating window (I do the 18:6 fast). My first meal is sort of light on the vegetables - usually more healthy fat(s) and protein. The second and final meal will be loaded with cruciferous vegetables and more healthy fat and protein. In both of those two meals the calories are what they are since I do not keep track. As far as exercise goes they say it's better to exercise while fasting because it will rev up your system for maximum weight loss.

I agree with you about these diets and how they tell you how many meals you should have, etc. The beauty of keto combined with IF is that you're not really eating less, you're just eating less frequently. Once you adapt to it, it's fucking awesome.
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Okay...I may try the IF after watching the videos. I can usually go all the way to noon and skip breakfast with no issues. I do tend to snack but that was more of a learned behavior after being told just a few years ago to eat 5 or 6 small meals/snacks a day.

I have a few questions or clarifications after reading what ya'll have said and watching the videos on IF. So do you eat your standard calories? For example, I recently started back counting calories since that seems to be the only thing that works for me. I use the MyFitnessPal app. It has designated for me to hit my goal weight to get approx 1500 calories a day (plus it add in extra from my FitBit from exercise and calories burned throughout the day.

So say you go down to eating the two meals a day. Do you just get your 1500 calories (or whatever your goal is) and split them among the two meals? So say you eat 500 calories for lunch and then 1000 calories for dinner? Or are you supposed to do it a different way?

Also I seem to be getting from ya'll that anything but water will fuck up your fast, is that correct? When do ya'll typically exercise? I usually do in the mornings and sometimes I can do it without eating but sometimes I can't Usually depends on how I feel.

This shit is annoying. First it is low or no fat. Then low carb. Then low or no sugar. Then no artificial sweeteners. Then don't skip breakfast and skip dinner. Then eat 5 or 6 small meals or snacks a day. Then eat just two meals a day and no snacks. And on and on (and I know I missed at least a dozen other examples there).

By the way...for those that are data lovers and bad about getting their water intake...my girlfriend bought me a smart water bottle for xmas and I love the damn thing. I don't really drink anything but water and beer but I am just bad about actually drinking anything. The bottle is called a hidrate spark 2.0 and it is really cool and works with my fitbit. I have actually drank more water in the last week than probably the entire month of December.
I totally admit to not having watched the videos yet. I just have not had the time. However,

I can certainly see how IF could focus loss on fat, I would find it hard to believe you can lose weight on ANY system if there is not a calorie deficit.

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I don't really count calories anymore since I just eat 2 meals a day now within a 6 hour eating window (I do the 18:6 fast). My first meal is sort of light on the vegetables - usually more healthy fat(s) and protein. The second and final meal will be loaded with cruciferous vegetables and more healthy fat and protein. In both of those two meals the calories are what they are since I do not keep track. As far as exercise goes they say it's better to exercise while fasting because it will rev up your system for maximum weight loss.

I agree with you about these diets and how they tell you how many meals you should have, etc. The beauty of keto combined with IF is that you're not really eating less, you're just eating less frequently. Once you adapt to it, it's fucking awesome.
And this makes perfect sense. If you are eating only two meals on a consistent basis, eating health foods, and exercising regularly, it would be hard to eat to many calories.

For example, if one were to eat 5,000 calories a day of grilled chicken breast and tofu, you will gain weight. The reality of course is one would find it very difficult to eat that much of those foods.

Im very curious about it. I really think it could help me as I overall eat well (not perfect, but well). But my big sin calorie intake is craft beer. And faster long hours could very well help me with that. I feel like.

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Old 01-07-19, 09:39 PM
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I also forgot to mention for those that like their meat, the carnivore diet is also conducive with intermittent fasting if you were so inclined. I've never gone 100% carnivore because that takes even more dedication and I do like green vegetables. Also, going carnivore can be expensive if you don't know how/where to shop for meats. As much as I love steaks, T-bones, rib eyes, etc., that shit will break the bank. A bit of keto/carnivore/IF is more my jam since I can balance those costs easily.

On a tangent - I also I use pink himalayan salt - Berg recommends sea salt and DeLaurer recommends the himalayan variant. It is expensive, at about $8 for a can of the finely ground one, but it will last a long time. The coarser variant is a couple of dollars less but it's really coarse - almost like little pebbles and I'd rather not chew on my salt. My cooking oil of choice is avocado oil, which is also about $8-$10 depending on where you find it. Be warned, the market is flooded with bullshit blends that are bad for you - they put them in the same bottles but the giveaway is the price. I almost bought an avocado/canola blend the other day until I took a closer look. Also, real avocado oil has a high smoke point - it's like 500 degrees before it will smoke, so you can fry away.






Oh, and the apple cider vinegar I use for my drink is Bragg, with The Mother:

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I was never able to adjust to drinking a tablespoon (or shot) of vinegar daily. I tried it before (it's supposed to be good for blood sugar). It always results in a crippling headache. Not sure if it has a potent effect and lowers blood sugar too far?

I love all that healthy stuff. I go to Whole Foods almost daily for my juiced greens. I eat 90% vegan. Been taking vitamins - though I stay away from the potent stuff, as I've had bad effects (mentioned in the 2018 and 2017 threads).

You could check out the "Garden of Life Raw Meal". That stuff kills my hunger, and is a big part of why I lost so much weight so far.

Lately, Door Dash'ing healthy lunches has really helped too.

I gained a little and went back up a jeans size towards the end of last year (something to do with depression ... or some kind of persistent miserable feeling). But I've been doing good for the past month, and was happy to fit into a size smaller again.
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Maybe. I’ve got extra skin. Went from 390 to 320. Want to go down to 230 or 250 with a lot of muscle. I’ve always been strong and stocky from the kind of work I do. Never too self conscious about it. But it’s there. I’ll definitely have to do skin removal surgery if I ever want to look my best. But not sure if it’s worth it. I think about it ... a lot.
Skin removal is much more popular and viable economically than even 5 years ago. Check with your PCP. They might refer you to a specialist they know (which helps). Do some shopping around however. It's referred to as a panniculectomy, and average cost is around $7K (internet reading). If you have the surgery, I recommend them NOT playing around with your abs. You want to exercise those and grow them naturally. The "panny" is just the excess skin removal. Expensive, but way more affordable and obtainable than before. Also, there might be a possibility your PCP can figure out a medial reason to remove it. You got about a 10% chance it will be approved, but worth the asking.
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I also forgot to mention for those that like their meat, the carnivore diet is also conducive with intermittent fasting if you were so inclined. I've never gone 100% carnivore because that takes even more dedication and I do like green vegetables. Also, going carnivore can be expensive if you don't know how/where to shop for meats. As much as I love steaks, T-bones, rib eyes, etc., that shit will break the bank. A bit of keto/carnivore/IF is more my jam since I can balance those costs easily.

On a tangent - I also I use pink himalayan salt - Berg recommends sea salt and DeLaurer recommends the himalayan variant. It is expensive, at about $8 for a can of the finely ground one, but it will last a long time. The coarser variant is a couple of dollars less but it's really coarse - almost like little pebbles and I'd rather not chew on my salt. My cooking oil of choice is avocado oil, which is also about $8-$10 depending on where you find it. Be warned, the market is flooded with bullshit blends that are bad for you - they put them in the same bottles but the giveaway is the price. I almost bought an avocado/canola blend the other day until I took a closer look. Also, real avocado oil has a high smoke point - it's like 500 degrees before it will smoke, so you can fry away.
It's a good recipe. Just for those who have acid reflux, the apple cider vinegar might actually enhance the issue. So, something to watch out for. As to the large-grain H salt, I recommend a nice grinder. I use one when I buy the large chunk on Amazon. Don't buy a plastic grinder, buy one that has ceramic/metal teeth. I use the Unicorn Magnum Plus, available on Amazon. Will set you back around $50. They have a picture of the type of teeth I'm talking about.
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I don't participate in this thread much, but I started keto last May. Shortly thereafter, I started reading about IF. So a few weeks into the keto diet, I started 16/8. I'm not religious about it, I occasionally break from it (especially on weekends), but I probably hit it on average 6 days a week, if not more. I'm 5'9" and was about 185 when I started. Lost ~15 after 4 months or so, and have been able to maintain since then. I'm totally lazy keto now, I'm not tracking a thing. And I'm not significantly limiting what I eat, I just eat keto and it happens naturally.

I do need to exercise more, and if I can kick that into high gear, I might lose a little more (which would be great).
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Watched the first video.

Got a little turned off at the 5:00 min mark when he talks about gaining muscle thru this eating plan.

Im a firm believer you canít gain muscle without exercise. The foods you consume certainly assist and add to the muscle u gain thru excercise, but Iíve never read a reliable article or study of anything that could gain muscle without exercise. Adding muscle is about tearing down the muscle and the body repairs it even stronger (Iím being overly simplistic). No food can do that.

Did I misunderstand what he was saying? Was he just assuming everyone doing this plan is already lifting so the added proteins and fat will increase muscle vs lifting on a high carb diet or non-IF/Keto diet?
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Watched the first video.

Got a little turned off at the 5:00 min mark when he talks about gaining muscle thru this eating plan.

Im a firm believer you can’t gain muscle without exercise. The foods you consume certainly assist and add to the muscle u gain thru excercise, but I’ve never read a reliable article or study of anything that could gain muscle without exercise. Adding muscle is about tearing down the muscle and the body repairs it even stronger (I’m being overly simplistic). No food can do that.

Did I misunderstand what he was saying? Was he just assuming everyone doing this plan is already lifting so the added proteins and fat will increase muscle vs lifting on a high carb diet or non-IF/Keto diet?
Sort of, in a simplified way, because that video doesn't go into the specifics of growth hormone that your body will be producing while on keto/IF. Also, it's a seguing sort of illustrating that your body will not cannibalize itself while you fast and eat a keto diet. It's impossible, because if done properly, you will essentially be using the fat intake (and already in your body) for fuel as opposed to protein and carbs. On keto, you will be cutting out protein a bit. Keto emphasizes fat intake.

There are more videos highlighting your question but here's one where Berg and DeLaurer did a joint video:





Here's the one on growth hormone:



I don't believe Berg said not to exercise. He emphasizes exercise and to get better results to exercise in a fasted state.

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Typical work trip. Three day trip, up 2.5 pounds. Some of it from lack of willpower, some of it through lack of options. All of it through restaurant calories and sodium.
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Here's Berg's newest clip that he posted this morning breaking down the "what is a keto diet" - lots of great information. It focuses strictly on the eating portion of it and it is composed of. He does not talk about IF here, just what to eat and what not to eat and what happens to your body, etc. It's very comprehensive and easy to digest.

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Sort of, in a simplified way, because that video doesn't go into the specifics of growth hormone that your body will be producing while on keto/IF. Also, it's a seguing sort of illustrating that your body will not cannibalize itself while you fast and eat a keto diet. It's impossible, because if done properly, you will essentially be using the fat intake (and already in your body) for fuel as opposed to protein and carbs. On keto, you will be cutting out protein a bit. Keto emphasizes fat intake.

There are more videos highlighting your question but here's one where Berg and DeLaurer did a joint video:





Here's the one on growth hormone:



I don't believe Berg said not to exercise. He emphasizes exercise and to get better results to exercise in a fasted state.
No, I know he didnít say NOT to exercise. But he mentioned at some point you might gain weight due to gaining muscle AND didnít mention exercise. If he is saying you can gain muscle just by the foods you eat and timing of when you eat it, I would find this suspect. I am still watching and reading.
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Well do have some good news. I just got blood work back from physical at end of year. Despite (as I mentioned) gaining 20lbs in 18 months, all my objective measures are not only normal, but in some cases, excellent.

The only medication I’m on is a very low doseage BP meds, and that still seems to still be doing the trick.

My total cholesterol is 205. Before you get excited, it’s because my HDL is 124! Which is outstanding! LDL is 70 and triglycerides are 40.

I do attribute all this to continuing my workouts/exercises.

Now to to get that weight off. I’m annoyed I had to buy new ski paints as I moved from a medium to large (all my jackets and such still fit at medium).
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I've gone to the gym twice this week and I'm going again tomorrow.

I lost at least 5 lbs. between December 19th and January 7th.

I've said "No" to fun foods on many occasions.

I've eaten extra vegetables.

I feel good about me.
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I will make sure that I will go to the gym 5 days a week to get a fit body and also improve my diet for better health. I am also thinking to avoid junk foods this year to live a healthy life.
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Last year, I had planned to lose weight but unfortunately because of how much work, I didn't accomplish my plan.

This year, I have a plan to lose near about 10 kg.
I am going to say a big no to sugary drinks, soft drinks and sugar-rich products.
I am slightly cutting off the carbohydrates intake.
I have started using ginger, honey and cinnamon tea. Also, wearing comfortable shapewear to get a perfect body shape with some cardio.

I have also started Keto Diet as I am the mother of three kids so I must have to be energetic and couldn't only rely on starving. Sorry, I can take veggies to lose my weight, but yes, I am taking fruits.
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Welp, after losing 50 pounds a year ago, I spent the last year exploring and improving my cooking skills and am right back where I started. I never had trouble with my weight and was always really thin until that third child (who is turning 21 this year). Time to start over . . .

I plan on doing Whole30 for a month starting Saturday. I've done it before, and like it as a kickstarter to healthier and lighter eating. We didn't start on January 1st because we had a trip to Phoenix to visit family, and there was no way to be successful eating out all the time. We're also planning to fast on Sundays (probably starting in a week--it's remarkably easier to go without food after not having a bunch of heavy carbs). I might look into intermittent fasting in the sense of limiting hours per day starting in February. My husband had been overweight all his life, then did intermittent fasting (as in 1-2 day fasts) and lost 70 pounds. He did that several years ago and has pretty much kept it off.

I need to be exercising, too. I have a Fitbit and bought a Precor AMT and some weights. I have them, but I need to actually use them . . .
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aside from the health benefits of IF, it is simply hard to overeat by all that much when you only eat in an 8 hour window.
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I will make sure that I will go to the gym 5 days a week to get a fit body and also improve my diet for better health. I am also thinking to avoid junk foods this year to live a healthy life.
For fruits, berries are best. Stay away from grapes and bananas. Veggies are good just stay away from any butters or oils.
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I lost 30 pounds then gained it right back. Annoying as fuck.

But I had visible abdominal muscles for like a week (still had fat behind them but regardless), it was neato.
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