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Old 12-21-18, 10:10 AM
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Jury Duty for a very serious crime - Anyone have experience?

Recently I was selected to be a prospective juror for a case involving a defendant accused of multiple counts of rape and sodomy of a special needs woman. I was not selected for the final jury pool, and I'm sure it's because I was acquainted with the defendant for a short time about a year ago when we worked at the same place.

I've never served on a jury before, I've been called 4 times now but never made the final cut. I'd really like to serve on a jury at some point in my life as I'd really like to see how our justice system actually works, and I hope it's on a high profile case such as the one mentioned above.

This whole thing got me wondering if anyone here has served on a jury for a serious case? Such as murder, rape, kidnapping, major financial crimes?

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Old 12-21-18, 10:28 AM
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Recently I was selected to be a prospective juror for a case involving a defendant accused of multiple counts of rape and sodomy of a special needs woman. I was not selected for the final jury pool, and I'm sure it's because I was acquainted with the defendant for a short time about a year ago when we worked at the same place.

I've never served on a jury before, I've been called 4 times now but never made the final cut. I'd really like to serve on a jury at some point in my life as I'd really like to see how our justice system actually works, and I hope it's on a high profile case such as the one mentioned above.

This whole thing got me wondering if anyone here has served on a jury for a serious case? Such as murder, rape, kidnapping, major financial crimes?
I'd say that's a safe bet.

I've never done jury duty. I was supposed to report for selection about 15 years ago. I called the morning I was supposed to go and said I couldn't make it because I didn't have child care. Apparently, I was supposed to pay for babysitting, while I attended the selection process? They were pissed, but I've never had a request, since.
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Old 12-21-18, 10:40 AM
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I've been on two juries, once for theft and another for armed robbery. Both were hung juries. I can't imagine how you ever got 12 people to agree on this shit unless the evidence is air tight. And if it was, why wouldn't the defendant just make a plea deal?
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I've made it onto a couple of juries after being called five times. One was for burglary and another for armed robbery/murder. We reached a guilty verdict in each case. The murder case was difficult because one juror, despite believing the defendant was guilty was afraid to vote guilty because she worried about the sentence the defendant might receive. We had to keep telling her that wasn't our job. That was for the judge to decide.

Both cases involved idiots. In the burglary case, a 36-year-old woman and her 15-year-old boyfriend, each named LaShon(I thought that was a weird coincidence) took $600 from a box in their neighbor's bedroom. The next day they were driving in a $600 car they just bought.

The murder case was pretty bad. Three girls in their twenties robbed a convenience store in Long Beach of $46. After they took the money and ran out to their car, one of them went back into the store and killed the owner. All three girls were convicted. Deputies had to escort us to our cars and told us to keep an eye on our rear-view mirrors as we drove home.
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I was on the jury for an attempted murder case. Defendant was obviously guilty but one juror was really dumb and took forever to convince what the definition of attempted murder was. She was also the juror who was almost always late getting back from a 1.5 hour lunch because she'd go shopping at Macys.
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Closest I came was a prospective juror for an armed robbery. The lawyers dismissed anybody who had anything beyond a high school diploma.
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I've reported numerous times but only made it into a courtroom twice (both during the same stint). For one, I was in the top 12 of the pool when we adjourned for the day so I figured I'd be in, but the next day the judge told us that the defendant had decided to go before the judge instead of a jury. He was a purse-snatcher, and many of the people in the pool said they were law-enforcement officers, so he might've gotten spooked.
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I've been called at least a dozen times over the years but only made it onto two juries, the very first time I was called and then five years ago. The first was a drug possession case; the more recent was for child molestation. I came home feeling like I needed a bath every night. Both cases led to convictions.
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I’ve been called three times but never made the final cut. Apparently I have a stupid looking face since I dressed appropriately and had no connection to either party.
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My psychiatrist has gotten me out of it three times.
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Not me but there was a case in Washington a few years ago where a guy broke into a house, raped the two women and stabbed one of them: http://www.outsmartmagazine.com/2011...couple-begins/ and after he was convicted and they were interviewing the jurors (from the back with their faces hidden) one of them was someone I know from work (who I knew was out of the office for jury duty, just not what case it was).

That person was generally a pretty emotional person (like sometimes when we were the last two at work, I'd go by her office and she'd be crying) so I have no idea how she handled being on a nasty case like that. I wouldn't want to do it I kind of feel like I'd be traumatized for life since you have to listen to the testimony and look at the pictures and all that.

Only time I've been on a jury it was municipal court and the guy was an idiot who brought a bunch of crack-related stuff through security to that very courthouse (right past the sign that says not to bring drugs in). I felt a bit bad about it because I think paraphernalia laws are really stupid, but only a little since the guy was a complete idiot.
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I served on a jury for a murder case. We were even sequestered in a hotel for about a week with no access to TV/Internet/Phone. The defendant was ultimately found guilty of 2nd Degree Murder and Tampering with Evidence.
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Only a civil case of negligence where I was the jury foreman.
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Update to my original post: Just found out the defendant was found not guilty of the charges. Wow, I wonder if the prosecutors case was crap or if the accusation was?!
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Old 12-21-18, 12:53 PM
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I cant count how many times I have been called for jury duty at this point but I have been "randomly selected for both Mass Federal and Mass state jury duty at least a dozen times (2x federal) The first Fed case I served was EdArt a local trucking company that was being sued by Mitsubishi Fuoco and starting the case which lasted a week or so I was sure Mitsubishi was the evil goliath suing a small local business, by the end of the case it was clear that the trucking company was playing loose and fast and was clearly in the wrong. The second case I heard was a contract dispute for a restaurant vs the land lord and took a few days for evidence, there was a serious murder trial in the same court that had the jury pulled from the same pool I was in at the same time, glad I wasnt called for that.

the second federal jury duty was a fairly big case and I asked to be recused and was for cause as it was a breast cancer case of a particular family against Johnson and Johnson, I think that one was settled mid trial but I have a horrendous family history with the disease and dont think I could be impartial.

I have also sat in the room waiting to be impaneled a half dozen times or more as recently as this freaking month, but have been sent home most of those times without entering the courtroom. I would far rather hear a case than sit there for hours on end waiting for something to happen.. I actually recognized the court officer / bailiff this time from the last time as he had a distinctive voice (sounds and looked a bit like the comedian Lenny Clarke...)

in all that time my wife of 19 years has been called one time and didn't even have to show up as they didn't need jurors for the day she was selected.
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Iíve been called three times but never made the final cut. Apparently I have a stupid looking face since I dressed appropriately and had no connection to either party.
No, if you have a stupid looking face you'd have been picked for sure.

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Only a civil case of negligence where I was the jury foreman.
My only jury experience as well (not long after I graduated from High School).

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I have also sat in the room waiting to be impaneled a half dozen times or more as recently as this freaking month, but have been sent home most of those times without entering the courtroom. I would far rather hear a case than sit there for hours on end waiting for something to happen.
That was my last experience being called. So annoying. And the people selected for the jury were done before I was (I had to come in for a second day of doing nothing but sitting around the waiting room )

Lots of people at my work seem to have been called in recently. And none get selected, since I work at a college and lawyers don't like educated jurors.
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The lawyers dismissed anybody who had anything beyond a high school diploma.
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Apparently I have a stupid looking face since I dressed appropriately and had no connection to either party.
Don't worry, apparently you may have looked too intelligent instead.


I've gotten a jury notice twice, but both times I was called the night before and told I was no longer needed, they had enough prospective jurors.
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I've only been called to wait a few times. It's kind of annoying. Here in NV you can't get an exemption for professional reasons. I run a solo doctor's office. I tried to explain to them over the phone that I am the only physician in my practice and needed to be there every work day to see my patients. She, very rotely, told me the story of how even a JUDGE had to go for jury duty. I replied that a Judge who is a state or federal employee with total control over his docket and his courtroom has absolutely nothing to do with a private practice physician who employs a staff of 10 and has thousands of patients, some of whom will inevitably show up at his office with sick children every day expecting him to care for them. She didn't seem to be interested and told me I had to come. So I went, missed a day of work and was sent home. What a waste of time.
As a result, now any time any parent asks me for a doctor's note to get out of Jury Duty, I always write one regardless of how dubious the reason for the excuse. It's my little FU to them.
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Been called many times. Only served once on a civil case. Only other time I got past the waiting room was for a first degree murder case. Defendant looked like a 15 year old kid and looked really scared. He was charged with walking up to a parked car and shooting driver in the head.
About 50 of us were chosen to go into courtroom for questions. After a short break we went back in and judge told us we were excused because they couldn't find 12 from our group. It may have been a death penalty case. There were lots of death penalty questions coming from the prospective jurors.
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Don't worry, apparently you may have looked too intelligent instead.
A second time I had made it into the jury box, they had done the questioning of me, "could I be unbiased," etc. and asked about my job and stuff. But because I had little to no sleep the night before, I had a hard time staying awake after that. So I looked like a tweaker, fidgeting and twitching while trying my hardest not to nod off. 5 people later, they excused me.
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I've been called in several times from 1981 to 2006. Never served on a jury. I always get excused based on something I say. It astounds me how most people tell the judge and questioning lawyers exactly what they want to hear, instead of just speaking frankly, which is what I do. I guess they want to be on juries or they're intimidated by the court. By acting so differently, I may just come off as a little crazy. Which is probably accurate.
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Been called many times. Only served once on a civil case. Only other time I got past the waiting room was for a first degree murder case. Defendant looked like a 15 year old kid and looked really scared. He was charged with walking up to a parked car and shooting driver in the head.
About 50 of us were chosen to go into courtroom for questions. After a short break we went back in and judge told us we were excused because they couldn't find 12 from our group. It may have been a death penalty case. There were lots of death penalty questions coming from the prospective jurors.
That's interesting. Do they excuse potential jurors from possible death penalty cases if they're morally opposed to the death penalty? I imagine that they do, but that of course skews the jury towards jurors more inclined to recommend the Death Penalty.
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I was called as part of a pool for a double murder case this year. The judge told the group that the case was expected to take 2 weeks to try, so I told the judge that i work for a small (3 employees) company and that I couldn't possibly miss that much time, and was excused.
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I served two weeks on a jury for an attempted murder case.

Not Guilty.
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That's interesting. Do they excuse potential jurors from possible death penalty cases if they're morally opposed to the death penalty? I imagine that they do, but that of course skews the jury towards jurors more inclined to recommend the Death Penalty.
Don't know. We were allowed to raise our hands and ask questions. Just about every question was about death penalty. The questions became repetitive and the judge got pissed and yelled at us. The prosecutor and lawyer were taking and answering the questions.
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