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At least 59 dead as India train mows down crowd

Old 11-14-18, 01:56 PM
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At least 59 dead as India train mows down crowd

What a stupid heading. And the BBC, no less.

The heading implies that these 59 people were just minding their own business, when all of a sudden, a train came by from out of nowhere and murdered them.

The reality is that these 59 people died because they were standing on the train tracks directly in front of the oncoming train.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45913793

At least 59 dead as India train mows down crowd

October 20, 2018

At least 59 people have been killed and dozens more injured by a train running into a crowd near Amritsar in India's northern Punjab state.

The victims were standing on the railway tracks watching celebrations for Dusshera, a Hindu festival, when a train hit them at high speed on Friday.

It is not clear who, if anyone, had given permission for the event and officials are trading blame.

An inquiry into the incident has been ordered by the Punjab authorities.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi described the incident as "heart-wrenching".

Families of victims held an angry protest on the tracks on Saturday.
How did it happen?

A large crowd had gathered to watch a celebration symbolising the triumph of the Hindu god Rama over the 10-headed demon king Ravana, symbolising the victory of good over evil.

The event involved the burning of a firecracker-filled effigy of Ravana and a fireworks display.

At one point, some of the crowd moved on to some railway tracks a short distance away, with some reports citing organisers' safety concerns about the effigy.

According to eyewitnesses, many on the tracks had been busy filming the festivities on their phones at the time so did not hear or see the train approaching at high speed.

The train that hit the crowds was travelling from Jalandhar to Amritsar.

Hardeep Singh, chief medical officer for Amritsar, said on Saturday that at least 59 people had been killed by the train and 90 others injured.

Officials have warned identification of all the victims could take several days.

Eyewitness Amar Nath told BBC Punjabi that people had been "mauled" by the train.

"I removed the bodies from the tracks... my hands were full of blood."

Who is being blamed ?

The exact circumstances are not yet clear.

On Saturday scores of victims' families gathered at the tracks, criticising the state government and demanding action against the train's driver.

Ordering the inquiry, Punjab Chief Minister Amarinder Singh described the incident as "absolutely tragic".

He said officials would do "everything possible" to assist the injured.

Ashwani Lohani, the chairman of the Railway Board, said it was "wrong" to hold the railways responsible for what had happened because they had not been made aware of the event, and people "are not expected to be on the tracks".

But local residents have told media the effigy burning is a regular local event there for every Dusshera.

"I've been seeing this event every Dusshera from here and this has never happened before, the railways should have stopped or slowed down the train," Deep Kumari, who was watching from her home, told Reuters news agency.

The deadly accident has renewed criticism of India's state rail system, which has a notoriously poor safety record.

A state of mourning was declared in Punjab with offices and schools staying closed on Saturday as the first funerals for identified victims took place.

He also announced compensation for the families of the dead and injured victims.
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Old 11-14-18, 01:58 PM
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If the heading is so stupid, why did you use it as your thread title?
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Not sure why the heading is stupid, because regardless of who's fault this was (and there is a lot of finger pointing regarding this), a train did indeed mow down a crowd of people.
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Originally Posted by Noonan View Post
If the heading is so stupid, why did you use it as your thread title?
You've been... grundle-struck!

I heard about this when it was first reported... on October 20th - the date of the article.

I think grundle just spends all day searching for articles on the internet that he can disagree with.
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Trains are generally extremely violent creatures that strike with heedless disregard.

So while I'm not surprised that such a thing happened, I do agree with that this article greatly misrepresents a rather docile, unprovoked train doing what it does.
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As usual, it's up to us to solve this dilemma...
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You've been... grundle-struck!

I heard about this when it was first reported... on October 20th - the date of the article.

I think grundle just spends all day searching for articles on the internet that he can disagree with.
Awesome AC/DC callout!

I wonder how Grundle handled it when Jay Leno would read the goofy headlines?
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Originally Posted by Coral View Post
You've been... grundle-struck!

I heard about this when it was first reported... on October 20th - the date of the article.

I think grundle just spends all day searching for articles on the internet that he can disagree with.


Yeah, I was going to mention that I read this story nearly a month ago. Grundle truly has his thumb on the pulse of the most current news cycles.
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Awesome AC/DC callout!
A little BBC AC/DC action!
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I thought that was how trains in India pick up passengers.



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The train was a migrant.
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According to eyewitnesses, many on the tracks had been busy filming the festivities on their phones at the time so did not hear or see the train approaching at high speed.
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Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Rajeesh you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind
This old engine makes it on time
Leaves New Delhi 'bout a quarter to nine
Hits Ganges Junction at seventeen two
At a quarter to ten you know it's travelin' again
Driving that train, high on cocaine
Rajeesh you better, watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind
Trouble ahead, Lady in red
Take my advice you'd be better off dead
Switchman's sleeping, train hundred and two is
On the wrong track and headed for you
Driving that train, high on cocaine
Rajeesh you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind
Drive your train, whoo
Trouble with you is the trouble with me
Got two good eyes but you still don't see
Come round the bend, you know it's the end
The fireman screams and the engine just gleams
Driving that train, high on cocaine
Rajeesh you better, watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind
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If only they'd been on the sidewalk.
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Wasn't aware AmTrak had trains in India.

And yes, I apologize for derailing this thread.
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Re: At least 59 dead as India train mows down crowd

Originally Posted by RichC2 View Post
Trains are generally extremely violent creatures that strike with heedless disregard.

So while I'm not surprised that such a thing happened, I do agree with that this article greatly misrepresents a rather docile, unprovoked train doing what it does.
Perhaps it grew up on the wrong side of the tracks.
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Now that we've arrived at this junction, this incident caused a spike in train-related death statistics. How that might be tied to other depot-pulation figures isn't known. Further, how much more of this can they take before running out of steam? Siding note: those people were loco to stand on the rails like that. I wonder what really spurred them to do it?
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Caboose!
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If the heading is so stupid, why did you use it as your thread title?

Because the mods prefer that we use the article's title as the thread's title.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike View Post
Now that we've arrived at this junction, this incident caused a spike in train-related death statistics. How that might be tied to other depot-pulation figures isn't known. Further, how much more of this can they take before running out of steam? Siding note: those people were loco to stand on the rails like that. I wonder what really spurred them to do it?


Looks like someone went off the rails.
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