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Old 06-09-18, 12:56 PM
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What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)?

i mean we had Robin Williams (i know he early Parkinson's and that might have tipped his mind), i'm sure others that i forgot, Kate Spade, Anthony Bourdain recently who committed suicide. These "accidental" od's by Prince, MJ, Heath Ledger, Corey Monteith, etc. also seem like they wanted to escape forever.

I don't get it. They have money, fame, some were low key in stature.

Is it depression that really gets to them? They don't think they can live up to future expectations and kill themselves? Do they think about their significant others and family? Would you call it selfish in some regard?

Just curious what others think on this subject in general...
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

Some is depression - Bourdain, Spade.

Some is handling th pressure of fame and always feeling as if they had to be “on” - Robin Williams, Chris Farley, etc.

Some is stupidity - Montieth, Ledger.

So to answer your question, there’s a lot of reasons. Many of which the majority of people will never understand.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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I don't get it. They have money, fame
If you don't get it, you never will.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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If you don't get it, you never will.
Looking at fame and fortune from the outside, many of us covet it, but for many celebs itís not a paradise. You need to be really grounded and have your support people be of the same mind set or it can get really out of control.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

Money doesn’t buy happiness.

I just made that up. Feel free to use it if you want, guys.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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Money doesnít buy happiness.
But you can rent it per hour.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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Looking at fame and fortune from the outside, many of us covet it, but for many celebs itís not a paradise. You need to be really grounded and have your support people be of the same mind set or it can get really out of control.
There are times I think about what I can get if I won the lottery. Then I think again and stop. I kinda like my life the way it is now. Not perfect but a certain amount of happiness.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

Happiness is subjective. Marriage, children, wealth, fame, nice house, good job, etc.... don't guarantee it.

(BTW, I go to therapy once a week and attend a monthly support group to deal with my anxiety & depression.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jeni

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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

Whats not to get? They are human. Humans die in various ways every moment of the day. Only thing special about these deaths is the celebrity angle. Other than that. Humans die all the time.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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Whats not to get? They are human. Humans die in various ways every moment of the day. Only thing special about these deaths is the celebrity angle. Other than that. Humans die all the time.
well, that's the point of the thread, kinda. they are not ordinary humans. they are ones that have money, fame in unique ways. that is not the "everyday joe" human to me...
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They are the ones that don’t think twice about paying $80 for Mexican food. Sometimes even more...
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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well, that's the point of the thread, kinda. they are not ordinary humans. they are ones that have money, fame in unique ways. that is not the "everyday joe" human to me...
They aren't special. They just have a better job.

We've only heard about their deaths because the parasitic celebrity press tells us. Lots of people died of AIDS in the 1980s. The only one we heard about was Rock Hudson.
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A great deal of celeb deaths have been opioid related. It’s been on the rise in America and it’s been on the rise with celebs.
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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Whats not to get? They are human. Humans die in various ways every moment of the day. Only thing special about these deaths is the celebrity angle. Other than that. Humans die all the time.
And celebrities dying from overdoses and suicides and what not is nothing at all new.

It's like people suddenly wake up and realize that this stuff happens to celebrities. Where have you been? Like Robo says.. What's not to get?
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

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They are the ones that donít think twice about paying $80 for Mexican food. Sometimes even more...
And they don't need to make stuff at home for 1/5 the price, must be nice.
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I think more than anything the 24 hour news channels and the internet makes us more aware of anytime there is a death now and they get more sensationalized.
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They aren't special. They just have a better job.

We've only heard about their deaths because the parasitic celebrity press tells us. Lots of people died of AIDS in the 1980s. The only one we heard about was Rock Hudson.
And Freddie Mercury.

And Iím not sure thatís a good example. It was a long time before people started admitting what was going on and the epidemic it was/is.
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Think worth mentioning the difference between mental illness and mental health. Itís far to easy to suggest all people that commit suicide are ďsickĒ.

Everyone goes through various stages of mental health through their lives. And we overall do a shitty job addressing. In part because of our horrible health care system.
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I think in some cases the fame doesn't cause the mental illness, but rather show business attracts people of a particular mind set. Like David Lee Roth said, "I don't act this way because I'm in a rock .n roll band, I'm in a rock 'n roll band because I was already this way."
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People will never understand unless they feel what those people are feeling.
Mental health and illness are a shit deal. Nobody can fully understand unless they experience it. I used to wonder the same thing when someone would act a certain way or take their own life. I now understand. It fuckin sucks and I can only hope I have it under control enough that it doesn't get that bad for me.
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Another one...... https://pagesix.com/2018/06/10/the-g...ll-dead-at-20/
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Damn 20yrs.
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^^ Jesus, Page Six. Proofread your shit!
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Re: What is with all the celebrity "unnatural" deaths in past years (2008-2018 or so)

I got together with an old friend I grew up with the other night. He was a Congregationalist minister for many years. He was telling me about his first assignment as a minister, and it was at a church in one of the wealthy Boston suburbs.

Now, my friend and I both grew up working class in rural Northern NY, and he said that his congregation was all executives, doctors, lawyers, bank presidents, etc. He said his initial thought was "what do they need a minister for? They've got no serious problems." But he said he quickly learned that the only thing different was that they didn't have many financial worries. Other than that, they still had all the same issues, emotional dysfunction, family problems, addiction, infidelity, abuse, mental illness. Not too different from poorer communities, as far as the individual issues.
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