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Old 05-28-18, 09:44 AM
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Maryland flooding

Yesterday, the historic area of Ellicott City was flooded and heavily damaged for the 2nd time in two years. The area was closed for a couple of months while the street and sidewalks were repaired. Now, the area has been torn up again, and I've heard reports the damage is worse than last time. One person is reported missing.

The downtown is in a really bad area. It is in the bottom of a narrow valley, and when the Patapsco river gets this much water, it has nowhere to go but the streets and sidewalks.

When the rain started yesterday, I thought it would be a typical summer thunderstorm: Heavy rain for about 10-15 minutes and then it would clear up. But it just keep coming down, it would lighten a bit, and we thought it would stop, and then the downpour would start again.

I live about a mile uphill from the flooded area, next to a creek that flows down into the Patapsco river. Normally the creek is a trickle, and when there's a downpour, it will get heavy for an hour. But yesterday, just like two years ago, it was an incredible raging torrent, that continued all afternoon.

I heard one shopkeeper say they were calling it quits this time. I'm sure there will be many more to follow. I don't know what they're going to do with the downtown area. Until the state or county implements something to prevent this, I wouldn't risk trying to open a shop there.
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Old 05-28-18, 12:25 PM
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Re: Maryland flooding

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I heard one shopkeeper say they were calling it quits this time. I'm sure there will be many more to follow. I don't know what they're going to do with the downtown area. Until the state or county implements something to prevent this, I wouldn't risk trying to open a shop there.
Yeah, hard to imagine what their flood insurance premiums are going to get jacked up to now that this has happened twice.

I am only ~35 miles away and it barely rained here yesterday. Tough luck for EC.
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Re: Maryland flooding

I remember the one 2 years ago. Really bad.
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Old 05-29-18, 07:27 AM
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Re: Maryland flooding

This flood was exactly 666 days after the 2016 flood!
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Old 05-29-18, 07:48 AM
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I live about a mile uphill from the flooded area, next to a creek that flows down into the Patapsco river.
So basically you live in the area that is the cause of the flooding? Lets tear up the trees and build houses at the top of the valley and not have a plan for runoff. Sounds like a plan. There is so much more stuff there than 30 years ago, or hell even 10 years ago. They continue to build and the flooding continues to get worse but the property values at the top of the valley continue to go up.
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Old 05-29-18, 08:08 AM
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So basically you live in the area that is the cause of the flooding?
Maybe. My neighborhood was built in the mid-80's. I don't know how much of the flooding is due to older construction, newer construction, climate change, and the regular flooding the city has seen because of its location.

From Wikipedia on history of flooding in Ellicott City:

The town is prone to flooding from the Patapsco River and its tributary the Tiber River. These floods have had a major impact on the history of the town, often destroying important businesses and killing many. Ellicott City has had major devastating floods in 1817, 1837, 1868, 1901, 1917, 1923, 1938, 1942, 1952, 1956, 1972 (Hurricane Agnes), 1975 (Hurricane Eloise), 1989, 2011, 2016, and 2018. The 1868 flood washed away 14 houses, killing 39 to 43 (accounts vary) in and around Ellicott City. It wiped out the Granite Manufacturing Cotton Mill, Charles A. Gambrill's Patapsco Mill, John Lee Carroll's mill buildings, and dozens of homes.[58] One mill was rebuilt by Charles Gambrill, which remained in operation until a fire in 1916.

A 1923 flood topped bridges, in 1952 an 8-foot (2.4 m) wall of water swept the shops of Ellicott City, and a 1956 flood inflicted heavy damage at the Bartigis Brothers plant. On June 21, 1972, the Patapsco River valley flooded 14.5 feet (4.4 m) from the remnants of Hurricane Agnes, taking out a concrete bridge, destroying the Jonathan Ellicott home, and the 1910 Victor Blode water filtration plant, and flooding Main Street to the Odd Fellows hall.[10]:26 The Old Main Line of the B&O Railroad also sustained serious damage.

On September 27, 1975, the town was flooded 9.0 feet (2.7 m) from Hurricane Eloise. Floods also occurred September 22, 1989, from Hurricane Hugo, and on September 7, 2011, flooding 11.0 feet (3.4 m) from Tropical Storm Lee.
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Water rushes through Main Street in Ellicott City, Md., on May 27, 2018.
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Residents gather by a bridge to look at cars left crumpled in one of the tributaries of the Patapsco River that burst its banks as it channeled through historic Main Street in Ellicott City, Md., on May 28, 2018.
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It's just amazing the amount of water. I was in EC at the time, not old town but 5 minutes from, and it definitely poured. Just the way that the water gets magnified and funneled down the the river is just striking.
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Ellicott City has had major devastating floods in 1817, 1837, 1868, 1901, 1917, 1923, 1938, 1942, 1952, 1956, 1972 (Hurricane Agnes), 1975 (Hurricane Eloise), 1989, 2011, 2016, and 2018.
Yikes, perhaps building on a flood plain isn't the greatest idea, huh?
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Re: Maryland flooding

Yikes.

Side topic: what sounds worse, "second time in two years" or "sixteenth time in two hundred years"?
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This flood was exactly 666 days after the 2016 flood!
We've been worshiping the wrong powerful figure.

Well...most of us have. Some us...have not.

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I've been worshipping Dom Deluise?
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I've been worshipping Dom Deluge?
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Re: Maryland flooding

Maybe don't build a town there.
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