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Old 05-21-18, 01:15 PM
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Is it time to say goodbye to Hawaii? Seriously though I'm a bit surprised we don't have a thread on the volcanic activity there yet.

Watching a live feed of a lava fountain - I'm sure the link won't last long term but my god its mesmerizing.

https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-1

Fun fact that I looked up this past weekend; the lava has created about 400 acres of new land with the most recent activity so far. Also the State has ownership of whatever new land is created by the lava flows, so if you are a homeowner that had beach front property that was just covered in lava destroying your house, you not only lose the house and have to continue paying whatever taxes were, you are also no longer owner of beach frontage.
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Old 05-21-18, 01:51 PM
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Yeah I think that beach thing changed fairly recently, like 2003 or so.

Isn't the speculation that there's supposed to be like a huge volcanic event (not this one) coming soon (like one big enough to affect Oahu and the other islands), or is that just doom and gloom?
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^^ I certainly hope not. Of all the places I've been, Hawaii is my favorite - specifically Maui.
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Yeah I think that beach thing changed fairly recently, like 2003 or so.

Isn't the speculation that there's supposed to be like a huge volcanic event (not this one) coming soon (like one big enough to affect Oahu and the other islands), or is that just doom and gloom?
From what I understand the worry is that the lava pool inside the earth will come into contact with an underground pool of water. Apparently that happened in the early 1900s and send car sized boulders into the air and every island felt it.
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Old 05-21-18, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Yeah I think that beach thing changed fairly recently, like 2003 or so.

Isn't the speculation that there's supposed to be like a huge volcanic event (not this one) coming soon (like one big enough to affect Oahu and the other islands), or is that just doom and gloom?
If the blow is big enough that particular island could completely disappear. Also tsunamis could hit the other islands and west coast of U.S.
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I'd be more worried about the west slope of the Big Island sliding into the sea and the Mega-Tsunami it would create.

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The locals will be fine. It's the tourists that will have survival issues.
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Originally Posted by rw2516 View Post
If the blow is big enough that particular island could completely disappear. Also tsunamis could hit the other islands and west coast of U.S.
If the big island blows why would Oahu disappear?
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
If the big island blows why would Oahu disappear?
Watch my video. It spells it out pretty clearly.
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Oh. Tsunami. I thought you meant by some volcanic action.
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One of my brothers lives there. I spoke to him last night and he said he's about a mile from the flow. He's ready to bail at a moment's notice - as long as the road doesn't get covered in lava.
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
Oh. Tsunami. I thought you meant by some volcanic action.
16km inland flow and a 100 foot wave is total devastation.
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When I first went to Hawaii years ago, we skipped the big island because they had just had a minor eruption and the National Park was still closed when we made travel plans. We didn't want to risk it still being closed when we got there (it wasn't). The second time was just this past January. We were there for the nuclear attack scare, but at least we got to see the volcano.
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Oh. Tsunami. I thought you meant by some volcanic action.
A big enough blow could obliterate the smaller islands. Nothing left like they never existed. When these things really blow it's hundreds of times more powerful than atom bombs used on japan. Could possibly even hear it in California. Hope it's not one of those scenarios.
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Originally Posted by rw2516 View Post
A big enough blow could obliterate the smaller islands. Nothing left like they never existed. When these things really blow it's hundreds of times more powerful than atom bombs used on japan. Could possibly even hear it in California. Hope it's not one of those scenarios.
But these aren't the Subduction Zone volcanoes. They don't blow like Mt St Helens or Krakatoa. It's not the same kind of magma. The thing about these Shield volcanoes is their substructure is not that stable and it's prone to landslides as water erodes the sub surface away.

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FTR I believe St. Helens was a little of both. But unless they lived here, most people don't know about the landslide element.
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If Hawaii were to be completely wiped out would we take a star off the flag?
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If Hawaii were to be completely wiped out would we take a star off the flag?
Nah, then Puerto Rico or Guam would get the chance (if they're still around). Just so we don't have to change the flag. Or maybe that Northern CA/Southern CA nonsense.
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If Hawaii were to be completely wiped out would we take a star off the flag?
We'd put an asterisk next to the last star.
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Old 05-23-18, 10:13 AM
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This is a really cool map project where you can see the real time flows

I thought that was pretty cool. Looks like the flows are heading out pretty far ENE of the actual Kilauea crater. I labeled some stuff from a screenshot. You can get a lot more detail from the link I added.

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USGS Scientist Gives Hawaii Eruption Presentation (May 22, 2018)
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Thank you kahuna. That was very informative.
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Special Report: Hawaii - Island of Fire

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Hawaii Eruption Update, 11 am Conference Call (May 28, 2018)

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Old 05-29-18, 01:48 PM
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You hear all those damn coqui frogs.
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