Abob Teff

I don't think that was exactly it ... but I could be wrong. I thought Patreon basically shifted costs to the patrons without telling anybody.

For example, if a patron pledged $5 a month, most show runners were eating the costs out of that $5 (e.g., a 25 cent charge per transaction + 5% of the pledge). Patreon took those costs and added them to the pledge, so now that person would have been paying the $5 pledge, the 25 cent fee, and the extra 5%.

They were basically trying to discourage the little $1-$2 pledges that most podcasters thrive on.

EDIT TO ADD: Here it is ... it was tacking on 2.9% + a 35 cent transaction fee.

This isn't an updated article, but it explains it pretty well: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...s-controversy/

Over the course of a year, your $1/month pledge would have cost you $16.56 instead of $12.

Mike86

Come to think of it I believe you're right.

TheBigDave

That's why I love watching Tasty. You get the complete recipe, start to finish, in 1-2 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJF...jXOMnkUyb3CQ3Q

DJariya

Yup, absolutely agree.

I personally prefer visuals. I've used YouTube on many occasions in preparation for my travels overseas. I've gone to many sites, restaurants and attractions in Asia based off travel Vlogs I've watched from YouTube. It's been said a few times already, many of the videos and Vlogs are professionally done, edited with graphics and animations. Yeah there is still crappy produced junk, but the quality of the content on there has improved immensely in the last decade or so.

I get it for some of you money is tight and YouTube for many of you is just a time waster and not really used for actual entertainment or information so spending money on it is not appealing.

I personally just don't have the budget to spend money on ad free YouTube right now, but I find it the application to be very useful and informative. I look up travel vlogs and other forms on infotainment all the time there.

Some people here don't like him, but I'm a fan of Chris Stuckmann's movie reviews. They're very well thought out, informative and use b-roll from the actual movie he's talking about and they're shot in HD. I assume he actually gets clearance from the studios to use the movie b-roll in it. He's actually very funny sometimes. They're pretty close to being an actual TV quality. I've seen some shitty ones with just a guy talking on his cell phone giving his 2 cents.

andicus

Am i the only one that initially thought YouTube Red was something like Redtube?

I had never heard of it until it was mentioned in this thread.

Mabuse

Thats how i feel. I love youtube and there are several people that i follow who make great stuff. But im not paying youtube while they make 10k a year selling soveniger hats.

Abob Teff

What kind of hats?!

Mabuse

Soviegneier.

My spell check is broken.

Sovenier
Soviegnier

Mike86

I don't even know what you're talking about. I've never seen YouTube trying to push merchandise..

cultshock

Souvenir, damn French words!

Kurt D

Youtube only makes 10k a year?
Those sovereign hats must be pretty crappy.

funkyryno

I use YouTube now in the same manner as I used to channel surf when I owned cable: It's a dumb waste of time. No way would I pay for it (unless they allowed prOn)

E Unit

I could care less if YouTube exists or not. So the thought of paying for it is rather comical.

Mabuse

You were paying for cable.

Talkin2Phil

Agree. It's incredible how much great music is at one's fingertips on YT. I have listened to and discovered so many artists, especially Jazz. Concert footage is great too, from recent shows to old one's. One night I listened to about five Scarlet Begonias -> Fire by the Dead from over the decades, not sure where else i could do that so easily. Also, it's great for extended 12" from the '80's.

Also, it great for help with DIY projects.

JZ1276

You guys actually pay for YouTube lol??

Norm de Plume

Not a chance I'd pay a dime for Youtube or any other website.

Mabuse

There is an entire live performance of Philip Glass’ Einstein on the Beach in full HD on YouTube.

Hiro11

I get Red as part of Google Play Music (which is the best streaming service around, IMO). Would I pay for YT separately? Yes, but only if pay to creators went up. I'd say YouTube is 80% of my video watching. There's so much good content.

Alan Smithee

I had a free trial of YouTube Red for 3 months and saw no difference aside from there being no ads on my TV's app, which usually lets you skip them anyways.

The whole point of YouTube, at least from the beginning, was that it was people putting stuff up just because they wanted people to SEE it, not because they were out to make money off of it. I've posted hundreds of clips from my massive media collection for that reason- I'm just happy that it gets seen by thousands of people instead of being just stuck in my closet (or floors as the case may be!)

If anything, I thought we'd eventually have to pay to upload stuff to YouTube, and I was uploading stuff pretty fast when I figured out how because I thought eventually they'd at least put a limit on it. I still don't know where all of this video goes physically.

While there is a lot of crap on YouTube, I'm glad that they keep it unfiltered for the most part- just let people skip over videos they don't want to watch. I do wish there was less content restriction as porn (either rare vintage or recent homemade) would be nice to have at least as an option and not overrun the whole site.

Speaking of unfiltered, I can't tell if this guy is really retarded or if he's doing some sort of Andy Kaufman thing- as a media collector/hoarder I find this amusingly stupid, and he's done several of these:

TheBigDave

Do you have a Roku? Add the Dead Shows channel. They have almost every show from 1965-2017.

https://channelstore.roku.com/details/49942/dead-shows

Trevor

Doh! Was hoping that was for “dead” shows as in off the air and not in syndication shows. But it’s Grateful Dead shows for anyone as confused as I.

funkyryno

Yes, I was. And now I'm not. Thanks for your insight.

Mikael79

Your post sent me down a horrid rabbit hole, because that dude is not the only one to make videos like this. I'm only 99% sure it's a joke, but that 1% keeps me watching more.

Sonic

It seems his video and his channel was taken down by YouTube and his season 4 program cancelled. Google is looking into further consequences against him. Seems there is some justice after all.