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Old 04-23-15, 03:50 AM
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John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

Jim Brady never recovered from those wounds and needed a wheelchair for the rest of his life until he passed away.

Too bad he did not know Jodie Foster was a lesbian or maybe this could have been prevented.


A court hearing Wednesday could determine whether John Hinckley Jr., the man who nearly killed President Ronald Reagan in a bid to win the affection of actress Jodie Foster, is granted nearly-permanent leave from the psychiatric facility that's housed him for decades.


On March 30, 1981, Hinckley opened fire outside a Washington, D.C. hotel as then-President Reagan was exiting the building after a speech. One of the bullets punctured the president's lung and barely missed his heart. Another left then-White House press secretary James Brady paralyzed from the waist down.

Though the latest recommendations of his doctors at St. Elizabeth's have not been released, Hinckley is expected to request a further expansion of his leave at Wednesday's hearing. He could receive 24 days leave per month, as his attorney requested in 2013, and he could even be put on "convalescent leave," which would allow him to live full-time with his mother in Williamsburg, given a number of stipulations.

Not all of the residents of the small, historic Virginia town are happy about it.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

So Hinkley is expected to request release? No big deal. Charles Manson gets turned down for parole every few years. Sirhan Sirhan comes up in 2016, and he isn't going anywhere.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

The reason he was in a mental hospital was because it was determined that he had a disease that caused him to shoot the President. He was not (according to the court back in 1981) responsible for his actions, any more than he would be if he were driving his car and had a seizure that caused him to crash into someone.

If the original verdict was correct, and if he is truly cured at this point (two big ifs), then why continue to keep him locked up? What purpose does it serve?
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^To show people you can't attempt to assassinate a president and eventually get away with it.
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To be fair, it was a failed assassination attempt. Had he succeed it, I'm pretty sure he would be in the same camp as Charles Manson & Sirhan Sirhan.
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Ellen Page better watch out if he gets out.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

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^To show people you can't attempt to assassinate a president and eventually get away with it.
Despite being found not guilty by reason of insanity, he hasn't been "free" in over 30 years.

If you do something, get caught and "sentenced" to a loss of freedom for 30+ years, did you really "get away with it?"
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The reason he was in a mental hospital was because it was determined that he had a disease that caused him to shoot the President. He was not (according to the court back in 1981) responsible for his actions, any more than he would be if he were driving his car and had a seizure that caused him to crash into someone.

If the original verdict was correct, and if he is truly cured at this point (two big ifs), then why continue to keep him locked up? What purpose does it serve?
I'll never accept the "disease" excuse when people commit murders or other crimes. It we were to go by this theory, then most people in jail should be freed because there is a scientific explanation as to why they committed a crime.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

Not "freed", moved to a hospital.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

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I'll never accept the "disease" excuse when people commit murders or other crimes. It we were to go by this theory, then most people in jail should be freed because there is a scientific explanation as to why they committed a crime.
Some people are mentally ill and others do it out of malice or for some kind of gain. You can't compare someone like Andrea Yates who drowned her five kids because she was mentally ill to Susan Smith who murdered her two children and blamed it on a black man so that she could be with her new boyfriend.
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Hinckley was first allowed to leave the hospital in 1999, but the privilege were revoked within a year or so when it was discovered that he was smuggling material about Foster back into the hospital. They were reinstated in 2005 and have been gradually extended over the years. Currently Hinckley is allowed to stay with his parents for up to 17 days, unsupervised. He is required to follow a curfew and carry a phone with GPS tracking while out.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

He is already allowed out of the mental institution to stay with his mother for 17 days each month, so it isn't like this is some new thing. This will effectively just save some money by having him live with her full time.
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DAMMIT! Someone came into the office and I didn't get to post that fast enough. I suck.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
Some people are mentally ill and others do it out of malice or for some kind of gain. You can't compare someone like Andrea Yates who drowned her five kids because she was mentally ill to Susan Smith who murdered her two children and blamed it on a black man so that she could be with her new boyfriend.
If premeditated murder is a mental illness, then I'm not sure why we have anyone locked up in prison.

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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
Some people are mentally ill and others do it out of malice or for some kind of gain. You can't compare someone like Andrea Yates who drowned her five kids because she was mentally ill to Susan Smith who murdered her two children and blamed it on a black man so that she could be with her new boyfriend.
One could argue that a person who justifies killing their kids for personal gains is just as mentally ill.
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It we were to go by this theory, then most people in jail should be freed because there is a scientific explanation as to why they committed a crime.
Wait, what?
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

I just hope he doesn't try to kill President Reagan again.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

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I just hope he doesn't try to kill President Reagan again.
I hear Reagan already took steps to prevent that...
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Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
Some people are mentally ill and others do it out of malice or for some kind of gain. You can't compare someone like Andrea Yates who drowned her five kids because she was mentally ill to Susan Smith who murdered her two children and blamed it on a black man so that she could be with her new boyfriend.
There are psychiatrists that could argue that Smith or any other murderer is mentally ill. We had one in Texas argue that "afluenza" is a reason to let someone off after they killed a number of people while driving drunk. I'll never accept a "mental" illness as a "get of of jail free" card. If they do the crime they should do the time. No scientific excuses.
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Ellen Page better watch out if he gets out.
I don't get it.
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Maybe he was getting Ellen & Jodie mixed up?
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He's implying Hinckley might get out and unwittingly fall in love with another lesbian actress.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

The timing of this seems interesting considering that Jim Brady is gone and his wife just died a few weeks ago. Was the plan to wait for them to be out of the way?
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

From what I've read about Hinckley he is not cured. He continues to be obsessed with Jodi Foster.
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Re: John Hinckley the man who shot Reagan might be released from a mental hospital?

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From what I've read about Hinckley he is not cured. He continues to be obsessed with Jodi Foster.
The doctors should have made him watch Nell ala A Clockwork Orange while in the hospital to cure that.

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