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Old 03-31-18, 10:46 PM
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My crazy ex-girlfriend tried to impose a system like that on me, basically getting me to ask "Do I need it?" before buying anything. SO glad we didn't end up getting married.

My job is finally over, I hate to give myself too much of a timetable to clean up as that'll likely come back to bite me when it doesn't go as planned, but my plan is to snap some photos of things as they are (it's a bit dark to do it right now), and then show updates as stuff gets cleaned up. I've got some reviews to do for this site also but will be juggling those with the clean up til they're done. Have an appointment for a root canal on Thursday so don't know how much work I'll get done that day, but we'll at least see how much I can get done this week.

The girl from work who I've been transferring the tapes for (and hasn't been let go yet) says she wants to have me over for dinner this week too
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Better get more than dinner for doing it.
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Thank you. All of us (including myself) would benefit from doing this.

This is quite possibly the best post on this thread, hands down. Very good article you linked to - this is much appreciated.
I also liked the advice buried in one of Bruce Sterling's essays.

I'd follow this link and start here at my quote (which I've edited for brevity here):

You need to re-think your relationship to material possessions in terms of things that occupy your time.

These objects can no longer protect you from want, from humiliation – in fact they are causes of humiliation, as anyone with a McMansion crammed with Chinese-made goods and an unsellable SUV has now learned at great cost.

Furthermore, many of these objects can damage you personally. The hours you waste stumbling over your piled debris, picking, washing, storing, re-storing, those are hours and spaces that you will never get back in a mortal lifetime. Basically, you have to curate these goods: heat them, cool them, protect them from humidity and vermin. Every moment you devote to them is lost to your children, your friends, your society, yourself.

It's not bad to own fine things that you like. What you need are things that you GENUINELY like. Things that you cherish, that enhance your existence in the world. The rest is dross.
His practical advice:

You will need to divide your current possessions into four major categories.

1. Beautiful things.
2. Emotionally important things.
3. Tools, devices, and appliances that efficiently perform a useful function.
4. Everything else.

"Everything else" will be by far the largest category. Anything you have not touched, or seen, or thought about in a year – this very likely belongs in "everything else."
Now I'm paraphrasing his advice:

For anything in #1, it needs to be displayed in a way you can always see it and be reminded of its beauty. If it's stored away, it's not doing anything and it's not really beautiful.

For anything in #2, we need to come to the realization that an object cannot maintain or destroy an emotional connection. If you sell your grandfather's watch, it does not end your love for him or commitment to live your life in a way that would make him proud.

Is this keepsake so very important that you would want to share its story with your friends, your children, your grandchildren? Or are you just using this clutter as emotional insulation, so as to protect yourself from knowing yourself better?
And for #3, here is where you can invest your money since bad tools means you spend more time getting something done.
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I collect sports autographs and about 6 months ago I was waiting in a line for a Terrell Davis autograph when I got to talking with an older guy in line with me. He was talking about all the autographs memorabilia he’s gotten over the years and showed me a picture of his basement where he keeps it all. It was basically just piles and piles of helmets, footballs, baseballs, etc. all stacked on top of each other. He also told me he had boxes and boxes in storage that he had no room for. Everything displayed was organized as nicely as he could make it, nowhere never Alan’s levels of chaos, but I decided then and there that as much as I’d like to have some of that sports memorabilia that he has, I will never allow my hobby to get that out of control. I will only seek autographs that I truly want and have made a deal with myself that for every one that I collect, I will have a reasonable place to put it. Since that time I’ve passed up opportunities to collect a lot of autographs that I don’t really care to own and have been able to keep my collection contained to a wall and shelf in the basement. It’s far fewer items but it looks so much nicer and less cluttered.

I’ve also started using what I call the “model home” approach to my house. I still have my personal items around the house and it looks like a lived in environment but I also try to keep it as minimal (or at least as close as possible) to what a model Home would look like. That means to boxes piles up along the walls, over flowing display cases, excess crap laying around, etc. with two small kids it’s almost impossible to keep the house looking spotless but that’s not really the goal I’m shooting for with this approach.
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I have 10 (very nice) guitars and a few top-tier amps. Thinking of selling all of them, save for 2 guitars and one amp. Mostly to pare down what I own. And getting rid of this stuff is easier than stuff like media. I'm pretty sure I can get more than double what I paid for the guitars.

Next, will be books - I have a lot of big, oversized hard-cover comics, and they're cool and all, and I won't get rid of all of them, but plenty of them are worth quite a bit, and are just taking space in my home, collecting dust.

Then, movies/dvds/bluras - I have over 2K, and I want to get it down to under 1K in about a year's time. I'll be able to sell some, but I'll have to give most of it away, and even throw some out, as they're region-2, or whatever.

Then, CDs - like movies, I have about 2K CDs, and I plan on reducing that to 1K over the next year as well.
I have a lot of videogame shit as well (old consoles, games), and I can easily toss a majority of those, though some of that shit I can get good money for - the (time consuming) trick is going through everything, one by one, fining out what something is worth.

Everything I have is organized, and clean, in it's proper place and out of the way, etc... but it's still just too much "stuff". If you could tell, I'm having an existential crisis over "stuff". This is not how life was meant to be lived!
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^ I think a couple thoughtfully selected collectibles displayed in a case on a shelf make MUCH more of a statement than stacks and stacks of stuff crammed into that same space.

I love looking through the “collectible figures” thread in the movie forum and enjoy seeing all the new figures that are released, I’m even jealous of some of the collections posted, but I’d much rather have only one or two figures displayed on my movie shelf than to have it overflowing with collectibles.

The same goes with anything I like to “collect”. Books, previously mentioned sports autographs, Hell even things like kitchen appliances and pier 1 imports type knick-knacks on my fireplace mantle. They all look so much better with fewer items.
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Alan, good for you for getting some professional help. You need to dump the things that don't have a place--the middle of the floor stuff is ruining your quality of life. If you want to line and decorate all your walls with dvd shelving, that's one thing, but you can't even walk around. I don't mean to be too harsh, but for your own good you need to wake up. Future generations will get on just fine if copies of old game shows and commercials are lost into the ether. Whatever minimal value those things hold is far, far less than you being able to move freely in you own place during your lifetime.

Another thing you should consider is getting rid of the storage space and all the stuff in it. You don't need those things, and I bet holding onto them is costing you around a thousand dollars a year. Is the stuff in there even worth $1000? Are you saving for retirement? Put that money into a roth IRA, and if you are already saving your max, go on a vacation with the excess. Imo, the storage unit is just a financial ball and chain.
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I'm glad that Alan seems serious about cleaning his place, and I'm hopeful he'll at least make some inroads. I'd be cautious about being overly optimistic, and some are putting way too much stock in the "professional help" Alan alluded to. He's not seeing a hoarding specialist--just a one-time visit to a generic psychiatrist for something unrelated. Maybe he'll mention the hoarding, and maybe it'll help a bit.

Since he has absolutely made clear that he will never get rid of any of his hoard--ever--I'm dubious what this "cleaning" will accomplish. Where will he put the stuff? Into slightly neater piles?

The prospect of a new girlfriend seems to be providing some motivation, so that's good. I guess we'll see.
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I collect sports autographs and about 6 months ago I was waiting in a line for a Terrell Davis autograph when I got to talking with an older guy in line with me. He was talking about all the autographs memorabilia he’s gotten over the years and showed me a picture of his basement where he keeps it all. It was basically just piles and piles of helmets, footballs, baseballs, etc. all stacked on top of each other. He also told me he had boxes and boxes in storage that he had no room for. Everything displayed was organized as nicely as he could make it, nowhere never Alan’s levels of chaos...
Here's the issue I have with this guy's sports memorabilia/autograph collection: despite the relatively neat?! (ha ha) presentation, he admitted that he doesn't have enough room for it all in his home, so needs to use a storage facility to house some of this. Again, as I mentioned before about storage facilities, they're a waste of money - for the most part. I.e., if your collection is so out of control that it's not only taken up a room in your house - but caused you to have to use outside storage (which comes with a fee) - then you have way too much fucking stuff.

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[QUOTE=Movie Watcher;13301363]I'm glad that Alan seems serious about cleaning his place, and I'm hopeful he'll at least make some inroads. I'd be cautious about being overly optimistic, and some are putting way too much stock in the "professional help" Alan alluded to. He's not seeing a hoarding specialist--just a one-time visit to a generic psychiatrist for something unrelated. Maybe he'll mention the hoarding, and maybe it'll help a bit.

Since he has absolutely made clear that he will never get rid of any of his hoard--ever--I'm dubious what this "cleaning" will accomplish. Where will he put the stuff? Into slightly neater piles?

The prospect of a new girlfriend seems to be providing some motivation, so that's good. I guess we'll see.[/QUOTE

I look forward to your posts about Alan.

They come off to me like you are narrating an episode of Wild Kingdom.
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Here's the issue I have with this guy's sports memorabilia/autograph collection: despite the relatively neat?! (ha ha) presentation, he admitted that he doesn't have enough room for it all in his home, so needs to use a storage facility to house some of this. Again, as I mentioned before about storage facilities, they're a waste of money - for the most part. I.e., if your collection is so out of control that it's not only taken up a room in your house - but caused you to have to use outside storage (which comes with a fee) - then you have way too much fucking stuff.
I obviously didn’t know that guy at all aside from the 15 minutes we shot the shit in line but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like that was planning on giving all his collectibles to his kid(s) when he died. The problem with that kind of thinking is these people who love their stuff so much think that others will love it just as much, when in fact, it’ll probably be nothing more than a burden to his kids after he’s gone.
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Speaking of autographs- I don't have too many, but a prized one is an 8-track of the Partridge Family's "Up To Date" album signed by David Cassidy. I found the tape at a thrift store in 1992 and later had him sign it when he appeared at the Tower Records on Watt Ave- he said it was the first 8-track he had signed in 15 years. I should probably display it a bit nicer since he's dead now.

BUT- I had a chance to get Larry Flynt's autograph a few weeks ago when he appeared at the new Hustler store here- I went there and saw him getting pushed around in his gold wheelchair, I took a few digital pictures but didn't bother waiting in line to get his autograph, even when he was giving out free Hustler magazines for that purpose. Books and magazines are the very definition of clutter to me- the worst is that when I organize those, I waste a lot of time reading them.
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Alan, I'll make you a deal. If you post pics of what your place looks like right now I will send you that Japanese HD-DVD of The Machinist for FREE - free shipping, too. Not just one pic, at least 3. The main living area, kitchen , and that sleeping area.

What do you say?
Maybe you should have set some sort of time limit, Blu--at this rate, it'll be Christmas before Alan gets those pictures posted. It's been nearly four weeks already.
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I obviously didn’t know that guy at all aside from the 15 minutes we shot the shit in line but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like that was planning on giving all his collectibles to his kid(s) when he died. The problem with that kind of thinking is these people who love their stuff so much think that others will love it just as much, when in fact, it’ll probably be nothing more than a burden to his kids after he’s gone.
Yeah...the kids will take the first opportunity to determine the quickest route to cashing in on this stuff. I am not sure I blame them...where would they put this stuff? I can't see the dudes kids wanting to continue to pay for a storage unit that contains stuff than can make them money along with the insta-savings of not sinking money into a storage unit.

Self storage places will implode if folks ever wake up and ask themselves if what they are storing is worth at least the monthly unit costs, and if so after another hypothetical 6-12 months has passed will the stuff in the unit finally be removed/utilized or still be worth more than the 6+ months of funds that have been sunk into the unit.

Self storage units should always be looked at as a temporary solution to a problem of where to put your stuff, but when you have been paying for a storage pod for years(!!) well...the mind just boggles. I can see maybe 3-4 months, perhaps even 6 months, I may even resist the urge to give someone shit if they are heading towards 18 months, but years, that shit is insane.
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When my parents moved two summers ago, I tried to get rid of a lot of "valuables" as I don't want to be stuck with them, and imagine it will be harder and harder to get rid of as time goes on
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Self storage places will implode if folks ever wake up and ask themselves if what they are storing is worth at least the monthly unit costs, and if so after another hypothetical 6-12 months has passed will the stuff in the unit finally be removed/utilized or still be worth more than the 6+ months of funds that have been sunk into the unit.

Self storage units should always be looked at as a temporary solution to a problem of where to put your stuff, but when you have been paying for a storage pod for years(!!) well...the mind just boggles. I can see maybe 3-4 months, perhaps even 6 months, I may even resist the urge to give someone shit if they are heading towards 18 months, but years, that shit is insane.
Agreed. Even if you think the stuff you're storing in storage units is worth $, it's not making any money stuck in a unit & is actually just costing you $. You should try to sell this stuff pronto - and, if no one wants to buy this within a reasonable amount of time (which to me, is a couple of months), donate it/give it away/recycle it/throw it away. Even if you can't sell the items & have to get rid of them, you will be saving $ by not having a damn storage unit payment every month/6 months (or however often you pay these off).

I can see renting a storage unit if you're in the process of moving & need a temporary place to house your belongings while you move. However, keeping shit in there for months & even years?! WTF?!

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OK, that keeps coming up, but I have to ask how is paying extra for a storage unit any different than paying more for a bigger apartment? I'd obviously LIKE to move someplace bigger and not need the storage unit, but that just isn't practical yet. I'm paying $64 per month for the storage unit right now, a bigger apartment would probably cost more than that above what I'm paying now. Yes, I know I could just get rid of everything in it and pay nothing, but that's not an option
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I can see renting a storage unit if you're in the process of moving & need a temporary place to house your belongings while you move. However, keeping shit in there for months & even years?! WTF?! Unbelievable.
A co-worker is in the process of moving and just got a small storage unit to sort and move all his belongings from all his siblings houses. So he asked the owner, does anybody ever come get their stuff and the owner instantly said "nobody"
He told me "That has to be the best business in the world, you don't have to do anything but provide a space and people just give you money every month" just like the comment above he was like "fucking unbelievable, people paying thousands to store things that are not even worth a hundred"
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Maybe you should have set some sort of time limit, Blu--at this rate, it'll be Christmas before Alan gets those pictures posted. It's been nearly four weeks already.

I guess. Alan doesn't seem motivated enough to take five minutes to post the rest of what was asked for a free OOP HD-DVD. Maybe I should take 5 minutes and put it up on eBay?
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^give him 2 hours.
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I guess. Alan doesn't seem motivated enough to take five minutes to post the rest of what was asked for a free OOP HD-DVD. Maybe I should take 5 minutes and put it up on eBay?
You're saying that? YOU??? Two words: motivational board.
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OK, that keeps coming up, but I have to ask how is paying extra for a storage unit any different than paying more for a bigger apartment? I'd obviously LIKE to move someplace bigger and not need the storage unit, but that just isn't practical yet. I'm paying $64 per month for the storage unit right now, a bigger apartment would probably cost more than that above what I'm paying now. Yes, I know I could just get rid of everything in it and pay nothing, but that's not an option
If you had a bigger place you would just horde more stuff and still need a storage unit. Bigger home is not the fix to your issue.
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OK, that keeps coming up, but I have to ask how is paying extra for a storage unit any different than paying more for a bigger apartment? I'd obviously LIKE to move someplace bigger and not need the storage unit, but that just isn't practical yet. I'm paying $64 per month for the storage unit right now, a bigger apartment would probably cost more than that above what I'm paying now. Yes, I know I could just get rid of everything in it and pay nothing, but that's not an option
And that's where the problem begins. If you haven't used any of the things in the storage unit for months or even years then you can obviously live without them. Holding on to useless items because they might be worth something some day or are part of your younger memories is nuts. You can still remember laser discs, 8-tracks and 3D TV without having to hold onto physical media.
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You're saying that? YOU??? Two words: motivational board.

Yes, but I'm not the one with a hoarding problem.

And I'm also the one giving away free shit.
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OK, that keeps coming up, but I have to ask how is paying extra for a storage unit any different than paying more for a bigger apartment? I'd obviously LIKE to move someplace bigger and not need the storage unit, but that just isn't practical yet. I'm paying $64 per month for the storage unit right now, a bigger apartment would probably cost more than that above what I'm paying now. Yes, I know I could just get rid of everything in it and pay nothing, but that's not an option
The answer is right in front of you. Get rid of the stuff in your apartment, and then put the items currently in the storage unit in your apartment - so you won't need the storage unit.

Or, get rid of the items in the storage unit - so you won't need it anymore.

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