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jeffkjoe 09-29-13 04:11 PM

Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generation?
 
The other day, they were showing the Simpsons episode that spoofed the beginning of The Flintstones. A couple of the neighbor's kids were over and they asked what show was being spoofed.

Then it hit me.

Soon the Flintstones (and The Jetsons) will be unknown entities with the next generations...

Same with:

Mickey Mouse cartoons
Popeye
Thr Beatles or Elvis (to a degree?)

Anything else?

Groucho 09-29-13 04:19 PM

Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio
 
There's a new Mickey Mouse cartoon in front of Frozen.

junglalien 09-29-13 04:20 PM

Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio
 
Leisure Suit Larry

TimeandTide 09-29-13 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe (Post 11852699)
Thr Beatles or Elvis (to a degree?)

Anything else?

I don't see the Beatles ever becoming extinct. Every year I have my new freshmen students create a soundtrack to a pretend biopic about each of them, and every year I still get plenty of Beatles, Beach Boys, Queen, and AC/DC songs.

Cool to see some of these classic acts get frequent mentions by 14-year olds, while whatever is hot at the moment--One Direction, Katy Perry--won't ever be mentioned again.

Josh-da-man 09-29-13 04:28 PM

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I think that most of the golden age SF writers -- Asimov, Heinlein, Pohl, Sturgeon, Clarke, etc. -- will be pretty much forgotten within the next few decades.

They're all dead and not producing new work, and the current generation of kids and teenagers seemingly have little interest in anything older than last year's iPhone.

Nick Danger 09-29-13 04:37 PM

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That's the nature of pop culture icons. They're unknown to the next generation.

Elton John was a huge hitmaker in the 1970s. But when was the last time you saw him doing something current, like playing on the Oscar awards?

Hiro11 09-29-13 04:56 PM

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Nasty, cheap-ass, dirty rock n' roll. Nikki Sixx may have been on to something.
Also, hot rodding / tuning cars. Quater miles, street racing, horsepower, all out, out, out. Kids couldn't care less about cars or car culture.

taffer 09-29-13 05:06 PM

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I remember when that Back to the Future video game came out a few years ago there were a lot of kids on GameFAQs asking if they needed to watch the movies first to understand the game.

There will also come a day when kids won't recognize Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.

Count Dooku 09-29-13 05:49 PM

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http://img0033.popscreencdn.com/1083...ster-spoof.jpg

JasonF 09-29-13 05:56 PM

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Relevant xkcd:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/unquote.png

Crocker Jarmen 09-29-13 06:12 PM

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Does every tiny scrap of pop culture need to be remembered? There's all kinds of things from well before I was born that our society at large remains aware of; The Honeymooners, Frankenstein, The ThingMan novels... I'm not losing any sleep over the idea The Ropers and The Fat Boys may fade into obscurity.

Mike86 09-29-13 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11852785)
There will also come a day when kids won't recognize Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.

Could be true but I don't know about this one. Star Wars has remained pretty relevant in today's culture and I think just about every kid knows the characters. Sure to the younger generation the prequel trilogy may be more popular but I think they'd still recognize characters like Luke and Vader. Plus now with Disney taking the brand over and seemingly ready to pump out as many movies as they can I don't see it dying anytime soon as parents will continue introducing their kids to the classics along with the new stuff.

GoldenJCJ 09-29-13 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11852706)
There's a new Mickey Mouse cartoon in front of Frozen.

Who?

PhantomStranger 09-29-13 06:41 PM

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Virtually everything from the '50s and '60s is forgotten by mainstream audiences today, even big stars. Almost everything before the 1980s is starting to fade from the cultural memory, including legends like Johnny Carson.

A few older actors still remain in the public consciousness due to more recent work, like Jack Nicholson and Robert De Niro.

Bronkster 09-29-13 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 11852832)

Sadly, that's the case. I work with people (early 20s) that have no idea who Groucho Marx or the Marx Brothers are. Same with Laurel and Hardy. I weep for anyone who hasn't experienced Duck Soup. :sad:

taffer 09-29-13 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11852875)
Could be true but I don't know about this one. Star Wars has remained pretty relevant in today's culture and I think just about every kid knows the characters. Sure to the younger generation the prequel trilogy may be more popular but I think they'd still recognize characters like Luke and Vader. Plus now with Disney taking the brand over and seemingly ready to pump out as many movies as they can I don't see it dying anytime soon as parents will continue introducing their kids to the classics along with the new stuff.

I meant more long term than short term. Star Wars will still be around for a couple more generations, but after that I doubt it. I can't imagine kids 50 years from now watching the original Star Wars trilogy. It would be like kids today watching the original Dracula movie with Bela Lugosi. It simply doesn't happen.

MBoyd 09-29-13 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11852901)
I meant more long term than short term. Star Wars will still be around for a couple more generations, but after that I doubt it. I can't imagine kids 50 years from now watching the original Star Wars trilogy. It would be like kids today watching the original Dracula movie with Bela Lugosi. It simply doesn't happen.

It will be remade by then

rocket1312 09-29-13 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 11852733)
Elton John was a huge hitmaker in the 1970s. But when was the last time you saw him doing something current, like playing on the Oscar awards?

Umm, I don't know if my sarcasm detector is broken or something, but he just played on the Emmys last week.

Pizza 09-29-13 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 11852858)
Does every tiny scrap of pop culture need to be remembered? There's all kinds of things from well before I was born that our society at large remains aware of; The Honeymooners, Frankenstein, The ThingMan novels... I'm not losing any sleep over the idea The Ropers and The Fat Boys may fade into obscurity.

You got me on The ThingMan novels.

cungar 09-29-13 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 11852916)
Umm, I don't know if my sarcasm detector is broken or something, but he just played on the Emmys last week.

Yeah Elton may not be a hitmaker anymore (no one is from that era) but he's an omnipresent presence on awards shows, hosts the biggest Oscar party, is constantly promoting new artists. I can think of a lot less relevant icons from the 70s.

bluetoast 09-29-13 07:45 PM

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Mickey Mouse will be around for a while yet, even if most of us are hard pressed to name an actual short that he was in.

Troy Stiffler 09-29-13 07:46 PM

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I don't like it when people from the 80's bring up pop music, like I'm supposed to know it. It had it's time, and it's dead. Radio licensing might keep it playing in the background. But nobody cares. It's like me being offended that a kid doesn't know Ace of Base.

The Beatles, Elvis and Michael Jackson will survive. Disney won't let Mickey Mouse die. Star Wars is getting a new set of movies (and will probably keep expanding).

cultshock 09-29-13 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronkster (Post 11852896)
Sadly, that's the case. I work with people (early 20s) that have no idea who Groucho Marx or the Marx Brothers are. Same with Laurel and Hardy. I weep for anyone who hasn't experienced Duck Soup. :sad:

It's up to parents to introduce these classics to their kids if they want new generations to appreciate them. I introduced my four year old and seven year old just last week to the Marx Brothers by having them watch "Duck Soup". They both loved it and wanted to see more. They already love watching the Three Stooges, Laurel and Hardy, old b&w cartoons, etc. A lot of that stuff is timeless with even today's kids if given a chance. I'm happy that my kids enjoy watching those old classics with their dad, I'm going to teach them as much about that stuff that I can. But yeah, I'm afraid they will very likely be in the minority.

I'm sure Disney will keep Mickey Mouse and Star Wars from being forgotten for a long time. They know where their money is coming from.

Obi-Wan Jabroni 09-29-13 07:56 PM

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He may not have many shorts anymore, but there's "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse" on the Disney Channel.

Nick Danger 09-29-13 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11852875)
Could be true but I don't know about this one. Star Wars has remained pretty relevant in today's culture and I think just about every kid knows the characters. Sure to the younger generation the prequel trilogy may be more popular but I think they'd still recognize characters like Luke and Vader. Plus now with Disney taking the brand over and seemingly ready to pump out as many movies as they can I don't see it dying anytime soon as parents will continue introducing their kids to the classics along with the new stuff.

How many kids today know about The Count of Monte Cristo? It was an important part of boyhood for generations, but now it's almost forgotten.

Ditto Ivanhoe, The Three Musketeers, The Last of the Mohicans, and Treasure Island. Popular culture moves on.


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