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Old 09-29-13, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler View Post
Star Wars is getting a new set of movies (and will probably keep expanding).
True, but that doesn't mean young people will want to watch the old movies.

Take Star Trek for example. Its older than Star Wars. Do you really honestly believe that many young people today have any desire whatsoever to watch the original 1960s series? Maybe a handful of nerds, but that's about it. To most young people today, Star Trek will be synonymous with JJ Abrams, not Gene Roddenberry.

Or James Bond as another example. Young people aren't going to be watching the Sean Connery movies. To them, Daniel Craig is Bond.

Likewise with Batman. Young people know Batman, but they have no desire to watch the old Adam West series.
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Originally Posted by taffer View Post
Or James Bond as another example. Young people aren't going to be watching the Sean Connery movies. To them, Daniel Craig is Bond.


That's a good point.

Who was the actor playing Bond when you were born?


Me, I was born in 1971 when Diamonds Are Forever came out - BUT - Roger Moore became the Bond who I got used to, due to his facial similarities to the Six Million Dollar Man and his exposure in Cannonball Run.
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Question:

Is Madonna as hot of a singer as she was 30 years ago?

Do teenage girls who are brought up on Christina Aguilera and Lady Gaga view Madonna as some hip grandma or what?

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How about Raquel Welch - There's an actress whose beauty transcends through the ages. People in the 60's want to bang her as much as kids brought up in the 90's.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Originally Posted by jeffkjoe View Post
That's a good point.

Who was the actor playing Bond when you were born?


Me, I was born in 1971 when Diamonds Are Forever came out - BUT - Roger Moore became the Bond who I got used to, due to his facial similarities to the Six Million Dollar Man and his exposure in Cannonball Run.
I find this funny ... Everybody says your favorite Bond is the one you grew up with. I grew up with Moore and he is my least favorite.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni View Post
He may not have many shorts anymore, but there's "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse" on the Disney Channel.
Disney still pads out their schedule with the classic shorts. Plus they have started a new series of shorts (my TiVo has picked up 8 so far) that have been quite good, IMO. New artistic style too:


Classic Disney & Looney Tunes aren't going anywhere. They've survived many generations already. They are timeless. I think the problem with citing the Jetsons or Flintstones is that they aren't as timeless or particularly good.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

I think Star Wars will last a good amount longer; being in Disney's hands help that.

It's interesting with old TV shows and movies; when I was a kid (i'm 30 now) I feel like I would always watch re-runs and movies on TV on the weekends. Whether it be cartoons, I Love Lucy, movies like Star Wars, etc, just whatever was on i'd watch it. Seems like these days that just doesn't exist anymore.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Bobby Sherman's still bringing the heat...
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I'll just be in my parlor listening to some ragtime and enjoying a chocolate phosphate.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Pop Culture, by its very definition, usually doesn't make a long-lasting impression as time goes on. It may be referenced or parodied by those who did appreciate its presence, or maintain a prolonged existence due to die-hard fans (I'm a Prince fan, and his unauthorized websites do their damnedest in promoting his history and music alive for the next generation, despite his goofy habits and considerably diminishing mainstream audience), but pop culture is usually an "unsophisticated" product of its time.

I try watching some of those old non-classic movies and TV shows from before I was born and find them intolerable, or at best, quaint. Is there any reason why we should lament the absence of HOWDY DOODY or ADAM-12? I can't blame my kids for refusing to watch the claptrap I enjoyed like almost any Hanna-Barbera cartoon or the "risque" sitcoms of the seventies and eighties.
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Originally Posted by taffer View Post
True, but that doesn't mean young people will want to watch the old movies.

Take Star Trek for example. Its older than Star Wars. Do you really honestly believe that many young people today have any desire whatsoever to watch the original 1960s series? Maybe a handful of nerds, but that's about it. To most young people today, Star Trek will be synonymous with JJ Abrams, not Gene Roddenberry.

Or James Bond as another example. Young people aren't going to be watching the Sean Connery movies. To them, Daniel Craig is Bond.

Likewise with Batman. Young people know Batman, but they have no desire to watch the old Adam West series.
Daniel Craig, Adam West, and the original Star Trek cast are not pop culture. They are actors who played charecters. The charecters are a part of pop culture and as long as people keeping remaking movies and series with those charecters, they will continue to be popular.
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
I think that most of the golden age SF writers -- Asimov, Heinlein, Pohl, Sturgeon, Clarke, etc. -- will be pretty much forgotten within the next few decades.

They're all dead and not producing new work, and the current generation of kids and teenagers seemingly have little interest in anything older than last year's iPhone.
As someone who read all of these - especially Asimov, Helinlein and Clarke whose works were more numerous/available - while they were still alive, this depressed me somewhat.

However, I don't think it is inevitable (just look at Messrs Dickens and Shakespeare etc) so I think I'll use your post as a starting point for a thread in Book Talk... an iconic forum that is in absolutely no danger of becoming extinct any time soon!
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Re: Which pop-culture icons are in danger of becoming extinct with each new generatio

Originally Posted by taffer View Post
True, but that doesn't mean young people will want to watch the old movies.
I've noticed that there are fewer "old" films on the regular tv channels as compared to when I was a child; especially black and white ones. But there are many more channels, some of which specialise in older material.

That said, certain films are still shown periodically on the big channels, such as The Sound of Music, The Wizard of Oz, Star Wars etc. and so I think the opportunity for them receiving a new/wide audience will still be there for some time to come.

As a kid I wasn't a biog fan of war movies or "cowboys and indians" but I'd happily watch a 30 year old comedy or spy or sci-fi movie and I would imagine that this will continue to be the case especially with re-mastering etc ensuring that some older films remain easy on the eye even many years after their original release.

Time will tell.
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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe View Post
Then it hit me.

Soon the Flintstones (and The Jetsons) will be unknown entities with the next generations...
I was just talking to my girlfriend this weekend about this very thing. We were talking about her kids taking Flintstone vitamins and it hit me that they probably have no clue who the Flintstones even are. I don't even know how thos vitamins exist anymore.
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Originally Posted by Bronkster View Post
Sadly, that's the case. I work with people (early 20s) that have no idea who Groucho Marx or the Marx Brothers are. Same with Laurel and Hardy. I weep for anyone who hasn't experienced Duck Soup.
Our Art-house theater recently did a "drive-in" theater with Duck Soup and Horse Feathers where they project movies on the side of their building and people bring blankets and chairs to view from the parking lot. There were people of all ages enjoying and laughing throughout the movies. My 6 year old and his friend were intently watching and laughing at the crazy anarchy the Marx bros. bring to the screen. They especially loved the Groucho mirror scene and were imitating it the rest of the night. I was amazed that after 80 years the Marx Brothers were still bringing the funny to a new audience.

Dead icon: Humphrey Bogart: he was an icon of sophistication and coolness in the 70's, now faded away.

Icons from the 70's still kicking and natty: Bruce Lee and Bob Marley.
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Sadly, Dennis O'Keefe and Frank Lovejoy are no longer the icons they once were:

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Dead icon: Humphrey Bogart: he was an icon of sophistication and coolness in the 70's, now faded away.
His name lives on with stoners.
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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe View Post
That's a good point.

Who was the actor playing Bond when you were born?


Me, I was born in 1971 when Diamonds Are Forever came out - BUT - Roger Moore became the Bond who I got used to, due to his facial similarities to the Six Million Dollar Man and his exposure in Cannonball Run.
1980, and now that I think about Dalton is far more "Bond" to me than any of the other actors. And to hell with the people who didn't enjoy his movies.
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I went to a local Oktoberfest with a friend and there was a table of people wearing Viking helmets. I think it was a birthday party. Anyway, my friend approached them and yelled, "Spam!" Apparently they did not get the Monty Python reference. I told him that he would have been better off saying, "What's in your wallet?"
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Also, hot rodding / tuning cars. Quater miles, street racing, horsepower, all out, out, out. Kids couldn't care less about cars or car culture.
I dunno, the Fast and Furious movies are really popular. SEMA is bigger than ever and import tuner cars are what the kids are wrenching on.
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I dunno, the Fast and Furious movies are really popular. SEMA is bigger than ever and import tuner cars are what the kids are wrenching on.
Yeah, there are still auto and bike enthusiasts but not to extent of my dad's generation. Rat rodding, with an emphasis on performance over body work, seems to be popular now too.
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Regrettably, these horror icons are fading from memory. I can't tell you how many young people I meet who have no clue who they are when I mention their name:



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I dunno, the Fast and Furious movies are really popular. SEMA is bigger than ever and import tuner cars are what the kids are wrenching on.
True, but I think the FAF movies surged when they became less about the cars and more about the characters and heists.
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It's up to parents to introduce these classics to their kids if they want new generations to appreciate them.
I agree that it it up to the parents if you want to keep something alive. I love Star Wars and I shared that with my daughter. She likes the movies, but I thought she might be the only one out there. Yesterday she told me that a kid at kindergarten was pretending to be Luke Skywalker. So there is hope for the next generation.
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