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Old 09-19-13, 02:09 PM
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What's a good ole reliable 4wd vehicle

Basically I'm wanting something to take out to the desert and not give a damn if it gets beat up or not. I guess that would be what they call a beater. I just want it to be mechanically reliable.

I was originlly thinking about an older Toyota Tacoma, but not very practical if I want to take my better half and kids along. This leads me to an older 4x4 4runner. Unfortunatly, most of these or 160k+ vehicles. How good are these older high milage Toyotas? And since I like doing my own work, how easy are these older Toyotas to work on? Are some years better than others? I've never owned a Toyota.

Any other recommendations? Jeep maybe???

BTW, I'm in no hurry. I need to convince my better half to swap my beater car for a beater truck/SUV.
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4WD? Wheels are for pussies.

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4WD? Wheels are for pussies.
Son would love that. Does it come in desert camo?
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Son would love that. Does it come in desert camo?
When it does, and you realize it, it's too late.
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K5 Blazer or a Bronco
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Jeep Cherokee and Commance are supposed to be easy to fix. Wouldn't buy any other jeep except for maybe a wrangler as they don't seem to depreciate. The rest are junk. The four runner from what I have been gathering is very reliable, most get 200K no problem.
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I own a 4th generation 4Runner (4th gen was 2002-2010) and can do all the standard fluid and filter services myself without having any prior car knowledge. I've put on 75,000 miles with zero defects or problems. All these trucks need are upgraded tires and they will go anywhere. I've driven up and down some crazy shit, across rivers, and in freezing icy conditions with no chains.

Many friends with 3rd generation 4runners have put 200-300 K on their cars with no problems. Fantastic vehicle. I love it. Oh and I've got a wife and 2 kids and it takes us everywhere.
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I'll never trust a modern car over 75k miles. They're mostly trash.

Toyota always wins the "reliability" awards. I'd go with a Toyota. I always thought the FJ's were pretty cool.
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Approaching 190K (130 of it mine) on my 99 Tacoma (4WD, sr5, extended cab). It's been pretty smooth sailing... just brakes/tires/fluid expenses over the years. But my power steering was leaking so I just had that replaced. Once you get up there in mileage though it's probably pretty common to have to replace some of those things.

I'll probably hang onto it for three more yrs.. I definitely have my eye on the new 4 door models I see out there. Go for a TOY!
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Re: What's a good ole reliable 4wd vehicle

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler View Post
I'll never trust a modern car over 75k miles. They're mostly trash.

Toyota always wins the "reliability" awards. I'd go with a Toyota. I always thought the FJ's were pretty cool.
Yeah, don't know what the oldest ones cost used, but an older FJ Cruiser may be the way to go. I have offroaded mine very hard over the years and it has put up with the punishment very well. The oldest model year is 2007, which is more than 6 years old now, so maybe you could get one for a good price. They have a solid rear axle with lockers (and a crapload of articulation) and a independent front suspension, so it is a good compromise design. They can also handle 33"s pretty well with a slight modification to the front wheel wells.

A Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is always a solid choice, but the newer ones have a much better engine (and therefore cost more because they are new), and there isn't a whole lot of family room in them. I would advise against the 4-door Jeep Wranglers as they have too long of a wheelbase IMHO for serious offroading.

The older Nissan Xterras with the offroad trim package were also pretty solid in the thick stuff, but it has to be one with the offroad package.
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My Wrangler has 200,000+ miles on it without much major work, best car I've ever owned, but if you're looking for family room, it's not your vehicle.
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K5 Blazer or a Bronco
I remember wanting a big old Blazer when I was younger. Friend had a Bronco II back then, but I always liked the full sized versions better. Old Blazers appear to be cheap but that might equate to a lot of needed work.

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I own a 4th generation 4Runner (4th gen was 2002-2010) and can do all the standard fluid and filter services myself without having any prior car knowledge. I've put on 75,000 miles with zero defects or problems. All these trucks need are upgraded tires and they will go anywhere. I've driven up and down some crazy shit, across rivers, and in freezing icy conditions with no chains.

Many friends with 3rd generation 4runners have put 200-300 K on their cars with no problems. Fantastic vehicle. I love it. Oh and I've got a wife and 2 kids and it takes us everywhere.
3rd generation seems to be at a price point where I might be able to convince the wife to buy. But damn, they're all high mileage ones on Craigslist. I think around 140k was the lowest I saw. Many were in the high 100's if not over 200k. I'm used to buying new and putting the miles on myself. So buying a used one with a lot of miles is kind of a shock. I do know I want to buy this used though, because as I said, I want something to beat up and not care about.

The Nissan Pathfinder was one I forgot about when I made my first post. I remember my friends old one took quite a beating back in the day. I believe his was a later 80's 4 cylinder version.
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Yeah, don't know what the oldest ones cost used, but an older FJ Cruiser may be the way to go. I have offroaded mine very hard over the years and it has put up with the punishment very well. The oldest model year is 2007, which is more than 6 years old now, so maybe you could get one for a good price. They have a solid rear axle with lockers (and a crapload of articulation) and a independent front suspension, so it is a good compromise design. They can also handle 33"s pretty well with a slight modification to the front wheel wells.

A Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is always a solid choice, but the newer ones have a much better engine (and therefore cost more because they are new), and there isn't a whole lot of family room in them. I would advise against the 4-door Jeep Wranglers as they have too long of a wheelbase IMHO for serious offroading.

The older Nissan Xterras with the offroad trim package were also pretty solid in the thick stuff, but it has to be one with the offroad package.
Used 2007 FJ's on craigslist here are going for 17k to 20k and beyond. I'm thinking sub (sub) 10k here, which I should have stated in my first post. Anything close to 20k and I'm gonna have to buy the wife a new car. Actually we looked at a new Prius V, but that's a different need or want.

I've always liked the wranglers. My wife likes the Rubicon. But as mentioned, they're probably not the most family friendly car.
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Here's another kick ass website

http://www.autotempest.com/

Searches, cars.com, autotrader, ebay, craigslist etc all at one site.
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Used 2007 FJ's on craigslist here are going for 17k to 20k and beyond.
Sorry, had no idea they were still selling for so much. Moot point for me since I plan on driving mine (one of the first ones sold) into the ground anyway

I've always liked the wranglers. My wife likes the Rubicon. But as mentioned, they're probably not the most family friendly car.
Plus, any Wrangler with "Rubicon" on the side sells for more than one without it, since most of the people that buy older Rubies want them for offroad use. It saves you the trouble of adding an aftermarket second locker.

I would advise against any large SUVs like an old full-size Bronco. Many of the best offroad trails were blazed by Jeeps and are often too narrow for larger, wider vehicles. Even in my FJ (which is narrow but not Wrangler narrow) I would often find myself missing trees and rocks by mere inches and occasionally would find one gap I didn't even want to try and squeeze through at all. Fortunately, the FJ's collapsible mirrors are awesome.

FWIW, after college I did own a '94 Bronco XLT. It was the first car I ever loved and I still have pangs of sadness when I think about the day I sold it. My FJ is the second car I have ever loved and I don't think I will ever sell it.
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4Runner owner (2007 Limited V8). Absolutely love it.

I'd do a 4Runner or a Jeep of some kind.
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Now I want a 4runner, had been shopping crossovers all these months. But came to the conclusion this week that I want a Japanese vehicle (after seriously considering a Hyundai Santa Fe and Ford Edge). Hate the rav4 plus it's a chicks car. The Honda CRV is so boring on the inside but I am still considering it. Hows the MPGs on the 4runner. Have heard nothing but great things about 4runners. Also considering maybe a Honda Pilot. Haven't heard enough good things about the highlander. Budget is $20K, but $15K is closer to where I'd like to be. There is an 07 4runner in the area with 50K for around $16K
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My V8 gets a paltry 16mpg and about 23 or so highway.

Of the vehicles you listed, only the 4Runner is an actual off road vehicle, if that matters.
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Here's another kick ass website

http://www.autotempest.com/

Searches, cars.com, autotrader, ebay, craigslist etc all at one site.
Thanks for the link. This will come in handy. Doesn't seem to work in Firefox. IE was fine though.


From the limited 4runner research I've done so far it looks like the 3rd generation middle years are the ones to look for. The '98-00 Limited with the 3.4L motor in particular seems to be popular. I'll keep up the research, set a max price and try to get the wife on board.

I'm assuming those of you with 4runners have automatic transmissions. I worry more about the transmission than the engine in these high mileage vehicles. Do these seem to hold up?
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4th gen didn't have stick as an option. 3rd gen did and I imagine on the 2nd hand market they are sold at a premium because they never made very many of them. I bet automatic outsold stick 10 to 1 in America.
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4th gen didn't have stick as an option. 3rd gen did and I imagine on the 2nd hand market they are sold at a premium because they never made very many of them. I bet automatic outsold stick 10 to 1 in America.
I'm seeing a number of sticks on craigslist. This ONE is nice and would work for me, but I'm limited since the wife can't drive a stick. My current car ('95 BTW) is a stick and I can count the number of times shes tried driving it on two fingers.

I don't know if there is an advantage of one over the other for my needs. It's a moot point anyway, as I'd probably want the wife to drive it. So automatic it is.
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4Runner for the win...

with basic maintenance and care, 200k no problem.

i'm approaching 85k in my 2006 4R v8, 4x4. no problems. except the itch to take it out more often. it's thirsty.
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Sorry, had no idea they were still selling for so much. Moot point for me since I plan on driving mine (one of the first ones sold) into the ground anyway



Plus, any Wrangler with "Rubicon" on the side sells for more than one without it, since most of the people that buy older Rubies want them for offroad use. It saves you the trouble of adding an aftermarket second locker.

I would advise against any large SUVs like an old full-size Bronco. Many of the best offroad trails were blazed by Jeeps and are often too narrow for larger, wider vehicles. Even in my FJ (which is narrow but not Wrangler narrow) I would often find myself missing trees and rocks by mere inches and occasionally would find one gap I didn't even want to try and squeeze through at all. Fortunately, the FJ's collapsible mirrors are awesome.

FWIW, after college I did own a '94 Bronco XLT. It was the first car I ever loved and I still have pangs of sadness when I think about the day I sold it. My FJ is the second car I have ever loved and I don't think I will ever sell it.
FJ's are awesome.

I have a 2007 (non 4WD ) and I plan to drive it until I can't drive it anymore. So far it's been solid.
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Why would they even make a non-4WD FJ?
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I used to have a 1983 Toyota FJ-60 (LandCruiser). My folks bought it in 1984, then gave it to me in 1991.
I got rid of it in 2001 at 250,000 miles.......and it was still running like a champion. If you can find an older toyota, even with high mileage, if it's been maintained, they're tanks.

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