Meet the Low-Key, Low-Cost Grocery Chain Being Called ‘Walmart’s Worst Nightmare’
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Re: Meet the Low-Key, Low-Cost Grocery Chain Being Called ‘Walmart’s Worst Nightmare’
For some reason, I thought most, if not all, the states had laws that prohibit different prices for cash vs. credit. (Not that I agree with such a law.) I remember that it used to be commonplace for gas stations to do that (several decades ago), but it was made illegal.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
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For some reason, I thought most, if not all, the states had laws that prohibit different prices for cash vs. credit. (Not that I agree with such a law.) I remember that it used to be commonplace for gas stations to do that (several decades ago), but it was made illegal.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
Review that mentions it. They give the discount using a debit card as I rarely carry cash.
I use a CC if buying something expensive to double the warranty. And if I do have to pay for any travel expenses as Hotels and Rent car companies do funky things with debit cards. Tho even then I may provide my CC and then pay with debit at the end.
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Spec's is awesome. The main store in downtown Houston is someplace I always stop when I am in the city.
Sorry you are so thin-skinned as to be insulted, but there are a lot of people who seem oblivious to the benefits of keeping track of travel points and maximizing their benefit from the travel. Obviously, you are locked down due to the way your company handles travel. I, likewise, am limited in how I pay for airlines, but I at least have the option of paying for hotels and rental cars with a personal card so I do so, even though it would be slightly easier from an expense report standpoint if I paid with my issued travel card.
Actually, I anticipated this response, but I posted that information for the benefit of others as well.
For everyone else? No, and I never said anything to that effect. What I am saying is that anyone has the credit and a little bit of financial discipline who makes most purchases on a debit card is probably doing it wrong.
Forget the fancy-shmancy travel card stuff. The first time I started collection points was a few years ago. I had an existing USAA CC attached to my USAA account. They have a boring one-point-per-dollar rewards plan, but you have to sign up for it (which takes all of ten seconds). I had seen little banner ads advertising the program for two or three years and ignored them, all the while not earning points on my purchases. That...was...stupid. Finally I started using it and I was turning in points for travel vouchers in a much shorter time than I would have thought.
For a lot of people, using a debit card is just as stupid as me using a CC and not enabling the points program and spending the points when they piled up. The fact that debit cards typically come with less favorable fraud protection than CCs makes it even more foolish. Even if it takes you five years of spending to get enough points for a free airline ticket to Los Angeles, that's still a free airline ticket that you got from no effort whatsoever.
Dude, give it up. And a little insulted you think I haven't ever thought of what you mention. I've been doing this for 15 years. I know every way to travel, every benefit, every way to budget.
You made the huge assumption that I'm paying for my travel.
Again, I have no doubt your system works for you. But to think that is must be best for everyone else is rather silly.
Forget the fancy-shmancy travel card stuff. The first time I started collection points was a few years ago. I had an existing USAA CC attached to my USAA account. They have a boring one-point-per-dollar rewards plan, but you have to sign up for it (which takes all of ten seconds). I had seen little banner ads advertising the program for two or three years and ignored them, all the while not earning points on my purchases. That...was...stupid. Finally I started using it and I was turning in points for travel vouchers in a much shorter time than I would have thought.
For a lot of people, using a debit card is just as stupid as me using a CC and not enabling the points program and spending the points when they piled up. The fact that debit cards typically come with less favorable fraud protection than CCs makes it even more foolish. Even if it takes you five years of spending to get enough points for a free airline ticket to Los Angeles, that's still a free airline ticket that you got from no effort whatsoever.
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I always wondered how people choose a grocery store. To me it's about convenience. Barring some huge difference in quality or price, I'll go with something relatively near me, or someplace that I'm going anyway to pick up other stuff. This is why I thought Target and Walmart and the like would pose a huge problem to traditional grocery stores, in that people who are already there for something else can also pick up groceries.
The only place I buy groceries that are far out of the way of my normal commute are Costco and an Asian/Hawaiian specialty store.
The only place I buy groceries that are far out of the way of my normal commute are Costco and an Asian/Hawaiian specialty store.
Fortunately, the best one in my general area (Harris Teeter) is the closest: only 5 blocks away. Before it opened (around 2001-02), I shopped at Giant, which was the closest one to me.
But I have friends who make the 30-40 minute drive to the closest Wegmans. I'd never do that.
But I have friends who make the 30-40 minute drive to the closest Wegmans. I'd never do that.
For some reason, I thought most, if not all, the states had laws that prohibit different prices for cash vs. credit. (Not that I agree with such a law.) I remember that it used to be commonplace for gas stations to do that (several decades ago), but it was made illegal.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
So sure, if it's 5% cheaper, then I can understand it -- at least at that store. But isn't this kind of cash/debit vs. credit different pricing uncommon rather than common, and if so, it makes a CC a better option most of the time.
Also any cash purchase discounts I have had in the past have always seemed more "off the books" than actual discounts. I never saw one from anyone that wasn't a mom and pop shop.
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Well ok. You feel those that don't use CC (or most) "are doing it wrong".
I don't. It's a simple choice. It's how some prefer to budget.
I'd bet I've saved more on the 5% discount at Spec's by using a debit card in one year "by doing nothing" than the worth of point or freebie it took five years to get on a CC.
Again, it's just a choice. Ill take the chance on fraud protection. I've only had one issue in 5+ years using my debit card. And my bank had it off my account in a single day. It's more about the bank/issuer than if it a CC or debit card.
I don't. It's a simple choice. It's how some prefer to budget.
I'd bet I've saved more on the 5% discount at Spec's by using a debit card in one year "by doing nothing" than the worth of point or freebie it took five years to get on a CC.
Again, it's just a choice. Ill take the chance on fraud protection. I've only had one issue in 5+ years using my debit card. And my bank had it off my account in a single day. It's more about the bank/issuer than if it a CC or debit card.
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It's where I do the bulk of our grocery shopping, and they take debit but not credit.


These are only achievable by having a set number of debit transactions (10 per account per month) to earn decent interest...so there can be some benefit to debit over credit. And the way I shop, 10 per account per month is typically done without any added effort. Any additional purchases (or larger purchases) can be made with a rewards credit card. But if those quickie trips to the grocery store or a $10 6-pack after work can quickly help me earn ~$40 a month interest - great!
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Cash price and Credit price being different at gas stations:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/c...cash-card.html
I guess this is a recent development, but I hate that gas stations can advertise the cash price with just small wording about it being only if you pay in cash.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/c...cash-card.html
I guess this is a recent development, but I hate that gas stations can advertise the cash price with just small wording about it being only if you pay in cash.
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These are only achievable by having a set number of debit transactions (10 per account per month) to earn decent interest...so there can be some benefit to debit over credit. And the way I shop, 10 per account per month is typically done without any added effort. Any additional purchases (or larger purchases) can be made with a rewards credit card. But if those quickie trips to the grocery store or a $10 6-pack after work can quickly help me earn ~$40 a month interest - great!
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I have a similar deal with my checking account (to earn a higher interest rate) -- I can't remember if it's 8 or 10 per month, but they don't have to be debit-sales transactions. It includes any transaction: a deposit, a withdrawl, writing a check, an automated monthly payment (e.g. mortgage, car loan), etc. I never have a problem hitting that, and I don't do any debit card payments.
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Also, if I need cash my bank does not charge ATM fees AND reimburses me for ATM's that do charge (up to like $4.00 per transaction and X per month).
If I pulled cash off my CC there is a charge. There may CC that don't charge or refund, but I don't see that often.
I think (again) there are pluses and minuses to both. And as a traveler I need both. But I prefer using my debit most of the time.
If I pulled cash off my CC there is a charge. There may CC that don't charge or refund, but I don't see that often.
I think (again) there are pluses and minuses to both. And as a traveler I need both. But I prefer using my debit most of the time.
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Also, if I need cash my bank does not charge ATM fees AND reimburses me for ATM's that do charge (up to like $4.00 per transaction and X per month).
If I pulled cash off my CC there is a charge. There may CC that don't charge or refund, but I don't see that often.
I think (again) there are pluses and minuses to both. And as a traveler I need both. But I prefer using my debit most of the time.
If I pulled cash off my CC there is a charge. There may CC that don't charge or refund, but I don't see that often.
I think (again) there are pluses and minuses to both. And as a traveler I need both. But I prefer using my debit most of the time.

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On our trip to Utah this last month, we had our first visit to WinCo (didn't know what it was) and we fell in love with it. There was one just down the road from my in-laws and it was quite the experience.
If there were one in TX we'd go.
If there were one in TX we'd go.
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That's about what I'd estimate the savings at, too. So while I do use my mileage credit card for lots of groceries like suggested, I think saving 25% or so (maybe 30-40 bucks per trip) is better than getting the miles.
(And I agree w/ Sdallnct on Costco for meat. Great prices on high quality meat that isn't all pumped up w/ extra "flavor" solutions. I think cheap places like Winco push the enhanced meat because it has a long shelf life. Walmart does the same thing.
(And I agree w/ Sdallnct on Costco for meat. Great prices on high quality meat that isn't all pumped up w/ extra "flavor" solutions. I think cheap places like Winco push the enhanced meat because it has a long shelf life. Walmart does the same thing.
Yeah, I love racking up my cash back/miles on my CC's, but its not worth the extra 25-30% that we save in our bill.
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My step mom shops at Winco in Boise and raves about the quality of their produce and low prices. Wish they were here in Bend!
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The best grocery store for an overall experience / price / product is Wegmans. I worked at one when I was in high school and went shopping there with my dad every weekend growing up. A shame they're not on Safeway's level of national stores since they're concentrated in the North East part of the country, but I guess it's quality over quantity.