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Old 04-15-18, 02:42 PM   #801
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On the obsessive compulsive side: There is a tissue holder in the bathroom for holding the cube-shaped tissue boxes. The top of the container has an oval opening that matches the opening of the tissue box. You would think that if you put the tissue box into the holder without paying attention, there should be a 50/50 chance of the tissue box oval matching the container oval. But somehow, every time she puts a new box in, the openings do not line up.
That would probably drive me bonkers too.
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Holders and covers for things that don't need them. Particularly if they are crocheted.
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A couple of little things my wife does a lot. First, I ask her if she'd like me to deal with some task, and her response is "That's fine". What does that mean? Does it mean that she'd like me to deal with it, or to not bother?
It's synonymous with, "No, I can do it on my own" or "No, no need".
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Old 04-16-18, 08:44 AM   #804
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On the poor use of language topic: I hate it when I ask someone "Do you mind if I.." and they say no, so I do, and then they get upset.

Or, someone asks me if I mind, and I say yes, and then they do it anyway. I have started responding to that question with a command. "Don't do that."
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Old 04-16-18, 05:05 PM   #805
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On the poor use of language topic: I hate it when I ask someone "Do you mind if I.." and they say no, so I do, and then they get upset.

Or, someone asks me if I mind, and I say yes, and then they do it anyway. I have started responding to that question with a command. "Don't do that."
Not to be a punctilious pest, but "someone" is not plural.
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Not to be a punctilious pest, but "someone" is not plural.
It isn't, but apparently "they" is acceptable as a singular gender neutral pronoun now.
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It's synonymous with, "No, I can do it on my own" or "No, no need".
I showed your response to my wife and she gave me an I-told-you-so. But I still think its an ambiguous answer.
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Old 04-16-18, 09:26 PM   #808
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I showed your response to my wife and she gave me an I-told-you-so. But I still think its an ambiguous answer.
She was right, but that's just my take on it.
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It isn't, but apparently "they" is acceptable as a singular gender neutral pronoun now.
That is terrible. I won't accept it, even though it makes things easier.
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Not to be a punctilious pest, but "someone" is not plural.
"They" is a perfectly cromulent pronoun to use for "someone"
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"They" is a perfectly cromulent pronoun to use for "someone"
I suppose one could phrase it a bit differently like "I hate it when I phone someone and that person doesn't return my call."

I think "they" sounds better, and works as singular pronoun for a person of undefined gender. It's a substitute for "he or she."
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"They" as a substitute for a person of unidentified gender is grammatically WRONG, sounds awkward, and is cumbersome. When I hear people using it in speech (usually the under 30 crowd) and / or see that it is now "acceptable usage" and "expected usage" on college term papers, I cringe indeed.

The correct form to refer to a person of unspecified gender is "he." It's understood to encompass persons of both genders. Just like the word "mankind" encompasses all of humanity.

The feminists and Millenials got upset with it, so they "forced" the change, and butchered the language.

I shall continue to use "he" and take satisfaction in using the language correctly, and also in pissing off the Millenials and feminists.
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um... no. "They" has been used for individual or group of unknown gender or species for long enough to be normal usage.

As in, "Why do they keep putting garbage in the recycle bin?" In this usage, "they" represents multiple individuals, not a single group.

In my post, the "they" represented any of a number of people, not a specific person*, so, it's correct.

*there is a specific person in my life I was thinking of, but they're not the only ones who do that.
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"They" as a substitute for a person of unidentified gender is grammatically WRONG, sounds awkward, and is cumbersome. When I hear people using it in speech (usually the under 30 crowd) and / or see that it is now "acceptable usage" and "expected usage" on college term papers, I cringe indeed.

The correct form to refer to a person of unspecified gender is "he." It's understood to encompass persons of both genders. Just like the word "mankind" encompasses all of humanity.

The feminists and Millenials got upset with it, so they "forced" the change, and butchered the language.

I shall continue to use "he" and take satisfaction in using the language correctly, and also in pissing off the Millenials and feminists.
Language is not static.
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I hate static.
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"They" as a substitute for a person of unidentified gender is grammatically WRONG, sounds awkward, and is cumbersome. When I hear people using it in speech (usually the under 30 crowd) and / or see that it is now "acceptable usage" and "expected usage" on college term papers, I cringe indeed.

The correct form to refer to a person of unspecified gender is "he." It's understood to encompass persons of both genders. Just like the word "mankind" encompasses all of humanity.

The feminists and Millenials got upset with it, so they "forc
Okay, I can stop reading there.
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Okay, I can stop reading there.
You got some kinda problem with elderly male chauvinists, pal?
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I shall continue to use "he" and take satisfaction in using the language correctly, and also in pissing off the Millenials and feminists.
When a person does something just to piss other people off, my assumption is that they are a dick.
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I agree with zyzzle wholeheartedly on the grammar aspect, but yeah, the whole anti-feminism diatribe is a head-scratcher. The habits and attitudes of some millennials can be insufferable, but I don't hate them or seek to anger them.

As for language not being static, sure, but some things should remain as they are because they are simply correct. The English language is going to the dogs.
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I agree with zyzzle wholeheartedly on the grammar aspect, but yeah, the whole anti-feminism diatribe is a head-scratcher. The habits and attitudes of some millennials can be insufferable, but I don't hate them or seek to anger them.

As for language not being static, sure, but some things should remain as they are because they are simply correct. The English language is going to the dogs.
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Thou dost surely joke!
I jest not, tho' perhaps I engaged in a spot of hyperbole.
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Hyperbole hyschmerbole, you were hatin' on colloquialisms.
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"They" is widely, universally used for singular nouns, and it makes me cringe whenever I hear it. I can't help it.
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"They" is widely, universally used for singular nouns, and it makes me cringe whenever I hear it. I can't help it.
Give it a hunnert years ...
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Brah (may I call you brah?), I won't be alive in a hunnert years, and I won't be cringing in my grave. I'm sure at that point people will only be communicating in initialisms, in the interrogative, and proper usage will be consigned to dusty old books no one reads anymore.
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I suppose, properly, the verb should match the pronoun.

"What is they doing?"
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