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Old 02-02-13, 04:35 PM
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Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

There must be some way to prevent these kinds of tragedies from happening - I just wish we could figure out what it was.


January 27, 2013: 236 people killed in Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire

December 5, 2009: 150 people killed in Russia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_Horse_fire

30 December 30, 2004: 194 people killed in Argentina:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%...nightclub_fire

February 20, 2003: 100 people killed in Rhode Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

Clearly we need to outlaw fire.
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Only assault fire, regular fire just needs a background check and a 3 day wait.
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

It all started on November 28, 1942 with the Cocoanut Grove fire when almost 500 perished. If we haven't learned our lesson in all those years (= no fireworks indoors, no locking exits, and no combustible plastics inside), then we'll indeed never learn. Thousands more deaths will be the result.
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

Nightclubs with retractable roofs.
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No locking exits were implemented after the Iroquois Theatre fire of 1903.
The Iroquois fire prompted widespread implementation of the panic bar, first invented in the United Kingdom following the Victoria Hall disaster. Panic exit devices are now required by building codes for high-occupancy spaces, and were mass manufactured in the US following the fire by the Von Duprin company (now part of Ingersoll Rand).

A second result of the fire was the requirement that a fireproof asbestos curtain (or sheet metal screen) be raised before each performance and lowered afterward to separate the audience from the stage. (Not common practice and not code in many jurisdictions--not for every performance.)

The third result was that all doors in public buildings must open in the direction of egress, but that practice did not become national until the Collinwood School Fire of 1908.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois_Theatre_fire
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

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There must be some way to prevent these kinds of tragedies from happening - I just wish we could figure out what it was.


January 27, 2013: 236 people killed in Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire

December 5, 2009: 150 people killed in Russia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_Horse_fire

30 December 30, 2004: 194 people killed in Argentina:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%...nightclub_fire

February 20, 2003: 100 people killed in Rhode Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire
All four fires were caused by pyrotechnics.

We just saw the Peking Acrobats perform on a stage. They placed candles on the stage for one routine. We were seated close enough that I could see that the candles were well-disguised electric lights. No sparks or flames.
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

Rather than impose burdensome anti-pyrotechnic regulations, I think we should just let the market decide how many people should be burned alive in a nightclub.
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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

We need to ban dancing.

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Re: Too bad we can't figure out how to prevent all these deadly nightclub fires

This reminds me of the time I saw Rammstein at the Roxy in NYC in 1998. Pyrotechnics galore, but FDNY was already waiting outside.

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