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Old 07-14-12, 08:04 PM
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

I've never had a bill this high. I was more wondering why it's this high. But maybe I should just grin and bear it. I'd rather be cool than save $50 or so.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

Originally Posted by nickdawgy View Post
I've never had a bill this high. I was more wondering why it's this high. But maybe I should just grin and bear it. I'd rather be cool than save $50 or so.
Like I said, everybody's is going up. I work for a multinational engineering firm whose main work is building electric, gas, and nuclear power plants and water treatment facilities. The cost of energy is driving everything through the roof. Even though my job is great because business is booming, I don't get any discounts on my own utility bills. Life's a bitch ...
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Holy crap, $185!? That's a lot of AA-sized batteries you're going through in one month. Quite washing all clothes immediately to save energy. Buy a manual can opener too, you'll be amazed at the energy you'll save by just doing that. Don't buy any food that needs refrigeration. In fact, just get crackers, those goldfish things to be exact. Warm beer is actually pretty good. Drill huge holes in all your walls and ceilings to allow natural light in. Go to bed before it gets dark. That should help drop your bill down.
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Seriously OP, did you consider locking in an electric rate with an ESCO? Not sure what state you live in, but if it has deregulated electricity than you could probably save 10%-15% on your bill. Worth considering at least.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

Originally Posted by nickdawgy View Post
Like I said, just making sure I'm not getting ripped off.
This past billing cycle, I used 1,024 kWh at $124. The last time I came to using that much electricity, was September 2011 with 1,020 kWh and a bill of $130. My average electric bill outside of summer months, which in Vegas is October - April, is around $53. During summer months, it averages to $105 with July - September being the worst months due to how much of a dry heat we have during that period.

I live in a 1300 square foot condo, directly in the middle section of a high rise, and electricity costs more here than when I was living in an 1100 square foot house. I've done everything in my capability to make my place of living as energy efficient as possible. However, there's somethings out of my control (i.e. weather) and that's why I have to deal with a high electric bill for a few months out of the year.

Despite all of that, I am far better off than my friends who live in (significantly) larger residences. Specifically those who have additional amenities like a swimming pool. A buddy of mine has an electric bill of $300-400 per month during the summer as he has a 2500 square foot house and a swimming pool. So I can see why some posters are pissed off by your post.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel View Post
So I can see why some posters are pissed off by your post.
I don't. That amount is a lot to some people, to others it's not.
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I don't. That amount is a lot to some people, to others it's not.
I want socialism to reign supreme and not have to pay a single utility bill.

I'm grateful to have a property management group that pays for garbage, gas and water.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

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Boy was I wrong.

I checked online today and it's $185!


We have four ceiling fans that are on 24/7.


Thoughts?
You do realize that a ceiling fan has a small motor in it... and it's not even close to the same wattage used to power a single lightbulb... a ceiling fan probably uses easily 10 times the amount of energy than a standard lightbulb. You're running four fans 24/7 even when the AC is on... WTF!?! Kill the fans when the AC is on!

I won't break your entire bill down but that extra fridge is running you $5 or more a month especially if it's located in a non-insulated (California) garage. Plus, just the fact that you're cooling/heating extra square footage. And your house probably isn't nearly as energy efficient to begin with i.e., lots of energy escaping through gaps in doors/windows.

Welcome to the reality of home ownership.

I too thought this thread was going to be about a $65,000 energy bill. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

I didn't know how spoiled I was paying on average $25 a month. And our highs here are in the upper 90s/low 100s.

Not looking forward to owning a house some day, especially if its in the hundreds every month. Yowzer.
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Welcome to the reality of home ownership.
I think he just rents.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

I keep my apartment at 72 in the summer months and a normal bill for me is around 110. 2 bedroom.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

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Holy crap, $185!? That's a lot of AA-sized batteries you're going through in one month. Quite washing all clothes immediately to save energy. Buy a manual can opener too, you'll be amazed at the energy you'll save by just doing that. Don't buy any food that needs refrigeration. In fact, just get crackers, those goldfish things to be exact. Warm beer is actually pretty good. Drill huge holes in all your walls and ceilings to allow natural light in. Go to bed before it gets dark. That should help drop your bill down.
Hey, I use a manual can opener

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Seriously OP, did you consider locking in an electric rate with an ESCO? Not sure what state you live in, but if it has deregulated electricity than you could probably save 10%-15% on your bill. Worth considering at least.
Never thought of that. I'll have to check it out.

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel View Post
This past billing cycle, I used 1,024 kWh at $124. The last time I came to using that much electricity, was September 2011 with 1,020 kWh and a bill of $130. My average electric bill outside of summer months, which in Vegas is October - April, is around $53. During summer months, it averages to $105 with July - September being the worst months due to how much of a dry heat we have during that period.

I live in a 1300 square foot condo, directly in the middle section of a high rise, and electricity costs more here than when I was living in an 1100 square foot house. I've done everything in my capability to make my place of living as energy efficient as possible. However, there's somethings out of my control (i.e. weather) and that's why I have to deal with a high electric bill for a few months out of the year.

Despite all of that, I am far better off than my friends who live in (significantly) larger residences. Specifically those who have additional amenities like a swimming pool. A buddy of mine has an electric bill of $300-400 per month during the summer as he has a 2500 square foot house and a swimming pool. So I can see why some posters are pissed off by your post.
I think my usage was 1,400 kwh or so.

Didn't mean to piss people off. I just hate the fact that some people assume because I'm concerned about a $185 bill and not a $1,000 one that I am broke and financially screwed.

Originally Posted by hal9000 View Post
You do realize that a ceiling fan has a small motor in it... and it's not even close to the same wattage used to power a single lightbulb... a ceiling fan probably uses easily 10 times the amount of energy than a standard lightbulb. You're running four fans 24/7 even when the AC is on... WTF!?! Kill the fans when the AC is on!

I won't break your entire bill down but that extra fridge is running you $5 or more a month especially if it's located in a non-insulated (California) garage. Plus, just the fact that you're cooling/heating extra square footage. And your house probably isn't nearly as energy efficient to begin with i.e., lots of energy escaping through gaps in doors/windows.

Welcome to the reality of home ownership.

I too thought this thread was going to be about a $65,000 energy bill. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.
What do you think the ceiling fans run a month?
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

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What do you think the ceiling fans run a month?
Electricity calculator for various household items
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

Wow. Mr. Electricity looks like a giddy child molester. "Hey kids, let me show you the meaning of power..."
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

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Hey, I use a manual can opener



Never thought of that. I'll have to check it out.



I think my usage was 1,400 kwh or so.

Didn't mean to piss people off. I just hate the fact that some people assume because I'm concerned about a $185 bill and not a $1,000 one that I am broke and financially screwed.



What do you think the ceiling fans run a month?
A lot more than nothing. That's for sure. Running 4 ceiling fans 24/7 isn't going to be free. Go thirty days without running them at all... you'll notice a difference.

We've got a pool so we're in the $250 to 400 a month club... all depends on how much we use our ancient AC unit. It gets slightly better in the winters but... not by much. Then again, our Plasma TV is on 24/7 and that thing you can BBQ on. Plus, you can see our house from space with all the electronic gadgets running all the time.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

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Damn, surprised it took you this long to make a stupid joke about the car thread. I can't wait til I post about a pet dying or a relative being ill and you come back with a crack about not being able to afford to care for them because I got raped.

Get bent, Deftones. I mean seriously. I'm so tired of your useless comments.
I lost my cookies with this post. God, I love Otter sometimes.
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A lot more than nothing. That's for sure. Running 4 ceiling fans 24/7 isn't going to be free. Go thirty days without running them at all... you'll notice a difference.

We've got a pool so we're in the $250 to 400 a month club... all depends on how much we use our ancient AC unit. It gets slightly better in the winters but... not by much. Then again, our Plasma TV is on 24/7 and that thing you can BBQ on. Plus, you can see our house from space with all the electronic gadgets running all the time.
But since hot air rises, couldn't it actually raise the bill to turn them off? It seems like it would mix the air, and keep the AC from running as much.
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Hey, I use a manual can opener



What do you think the ceiling fans run a month?
See Mr. Electricity, it depends on size and speed, but he gives values between 24-90 W. Multiply by 720 hours divide by 1000 W/kW for kilowatt hours. At the low speed figure given, four are about 70 kWh/month.

However, I think the advice to turn them off is misguided. They even out temperatures throughout your unit and provide a little air movement. They should make a higher A/C setting more tolerable. The higher setting will save you more on A/C than the fans cost to run. Low speed should suffice however.

The fan manufacturers say run them in winter too, but in my view the draftiness offsets any temperature equalization. I turn them off when I put down the storm windows and fire up the furnace. So I think of them as a more efficient add-on to the A/C.
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See Mr. Electricity, it depends on size and speed, but he gives values between 24-90 W. Multiply by 720 hours divide by 1000 W/kW for kilowatt hours. At the low speed figure given, four are about 70 kWh/month.

However, I think the advice to turn them off is misguided. They even out temperatures throughout your unit and provide a little air movement. They should make a higher A/C setting more tolerable. The higher setting will save you more on A/C than the fans cost to run. Low speed should suffice however.

The fan manufacturers say run them in winter too, but in my view the draftiness offsets any temperature equalization. I turn them off when I put down the storm windows and fire up the furnace. So I think of them as a more efficient add-on to the A/C.
I agree, except I think there is little gain from running them 24/7. Certain layouts can benefit from constant air circulation, but generally a ceiling fan running in an empty room does little but waste money.

I have a Kill-A-Watt device, but of course it can't measure a directly wired device like a ceiling fan. I had it hooked up to my computer for most of the past month and it's been interesting. For example, I can save 40-50 watts just by watching a youtube video via XBMC rather than in the Chrome browser.
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Utilities included in the rent bitches!
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Is this for an apartment or an entire house?
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Is this for an apartment or an entire house?
He said a 1400 sq ft condo.
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Didn't mean to piss people off. I just hate the fact that some people assume because I'm concerned about a $185 bill and not a $1,000 one that I am broke and financially screwed.
Whether or not you want to hear it, you'll be financially screwed until you fix your credit and stop paying double for a Honda Civic. You'll never be able to rationalize anything with your financial situation to the people here. Most people that have extra money like that to burn do so on better cars or other things.
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Both of you can fuck off. Seriously. Who is bragging? I lived in a shithole apartment and am now in a better place. Why is it so hard to fathom that I'm not broke or in financial trouble?

Bragging. That's a good one.

I should seriously ignore you both, but I guess I thought maybe one of these days the planets will align and you'll actually have something useful to add to one of my threads. I mean I can handle a joke but the same old tired shit isn't funny to me so shut your traps because i don't come here to get ridiculed by the likes of you.
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Re: Attack of the Evil Electric Bill! It's Huge, Run For Your Lives!

With all this talk about air conditioning and temperature settings, I just thought I would note that my AC quit cooling last night. It is currently 92 degrees in my house.
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With all this talk about air conditioning and temperature settings, I just thought I would note that my AC quit cooling last night. It is currently 92 degrees in my house.
It's 88 in my apartment at the moment. But I do have a ceiling fan on. lol
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With all this talk about air conditioning and temperature settings, I just thought I would note that my AC quit cooling last night. It is currently 92 degrees in my house.
Bummer. That is miserable. Say goodbye to a few hundred bucks. Hope the whole AC isn't bad.

Get someone on the phone, and ready to stop by today. Most of the AC companies work 7 days a week. Just don't be suprised if it's a simple contactor or capacitor, and the cost is still a few hundred to fix (after the trip charge and whatnot). Could be closer to $750 if there's a bad motor. Could be $3500 if the unit is too bad to fix.

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