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Old 05-09-12, 02:28 PM
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Most people drive every single day of their lives and don't die.
Ever?
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Old 05-09-12, 02:37 PM
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What about people who drive up mountains or climb to work?
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Those aren't even real people.
probably illegals anyway.
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Old 05-09-12, 03:20 PM
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^Is that why Giantrobo likes the chunky ladies? Just in case he's stranded on Everest with one of them? It's all starting to makes sense...
He likes a good rump roast, or so I hear.
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Re: Dead Bodies on Mount Everest

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Sherpas and high-altitude porters that make it to the top are counted as summiters, and ones that die are counted in the fatalities.
That is true, but there might be a Sherpa who climbs from base camp to camp 3, back and forth, up and down, all season long but never goes to the summit. He's actually exposing himself to substantially more risk than someone who summits once and goes home. If he dies (which is far more likely to occur) he is counted as a fatality but he never summited.

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Old 05-09-12, 03:48 PM
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That is true, but there might be a Sherpa who climbs from base camp to camp 3, back and forth, up and down, all season long but never goes to the summit. He's actually exposing himself to substantially more risk than someone who summits once and goes home. If he dies (which is far more to occur) he is counted as a fatality but he never summited.
All climbers go up and down a lot prior to the summit push. Base camp to camp 1 and back, up to Camp 2 and back, up to 3 and back, etc. That is how they acclimate, and why it takes so long to climb. They're not just sitting around the camps waiting for Sherpas to fix ropes.
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Old 05-12-12, 11:42 PM
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Everest: Beyond the Limit is a pretty interesting series that ran 3 seasons. I have no desire to try this climb but my wife and I have finished the first season and are about halfway through the second season.
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Old 05-14-12, 05:46 PM
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They would just end up shooting over the cliff at the first turn. Now you've lost your sled.
The body is the sled! I don't think they would get any deader going over a cliff.
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Old 05-14-12, 07:58 PM
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Everest: Beyond the Limit is a pretty interesting series that ran 3 seasons. I have no desire to try this climb but my wife and I have finished the first season and are about halfway through the second season.
Can't believe it isn't on Blu-ray.
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Old 05-14-12, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhaWake View Post
what if you attempt to climp Mt Everest twice, does that 3.6 double? sorry I failed math.
Roughly. Assuming that skill etc are not significant factors in fatalities.
That is, the knowledge that a person has summitted successfully in the past does not give you an advantage in predicting whether the persons future summit will be successful.
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They should just send a helicopter up to get the people like they did on Mr. Deeds.
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They should just send a helicopter up to get the people like they did on Mr. Deeds.
On a show I watched they said that it is dangerous for helicopters to go to the Death Zone as the air is so thin that the helicopters can't always get off the ground/snow.
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If I had the money and time to piss away and my body could handle that rugged climb I might give it a shot. However, with a wife and child and no money or time to piss away I guess I'm left to live vicariously through the lives of the other climbers that have made it to the top. Good enough for me. I did ride the Everest rollercoaster at Disney World.
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On a show I watched they said that it is dangerous for helicopters to go to the Death Zone as the air is so thin that the helicopters can't always get off the ground/snow.
I can forget getting one to the moon then.
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I can forget getting one to the moon then.
Helicopter ride to the moon! Sounds like fun and a quick turnaround.
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It did.
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Old 05-15-12, 03:24 PM
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All climbers go up and down a lot prior to the summit push. Base camp to camp 1 and back, up to Camp 2 and back, up to 3 and back, etc. That is how they acclimate, and why it takes so long to climb. They're not just sitting around the camps waiting for Sherpas to fix ropes.
Yeah but Mabuse is saying that the Sherpas do it all season long, not just for one group of climbers.
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Those Sherpas are studs and risk their lives for the climbing pleasure of others. There is no way in hell that most climbers would risk their lives on the Khumbu ice fall, the second step or the various crevices found on the climb without the work those guys do beforehand.
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Roughly. Assuming that skill etc are not significant factors in fatalities.
That is, the knowledge that a person has summitted successfully in the past does not give you an advantage in predicting whether the persons future summit will be successful.
If you have a 3.6% chance of dying on any climb, and each climb is independent of all others, then if the number of climbs that you make = C, then your odds of dying at some point during those C climbs = (1 - (0.964 ^ C)) * 100

So if you climb once, your odds of dying are 3.6%.

If you climb twice, your odds of dying are 7.0704%.

If you climb 3 times, your odds of dying are 10.4158656%.

If you climb 4 times, your odds of dying are 13.6408944%.

If you climb 5 times, your odds of dying are 16.7498222%.

If you climb 10 times, your odds of dying are 30.694079%.

If you climb 20 times, your odds of dying are 51.9668932%.

If you climb 50 times, your odds of dying are 84.009881%.

If you climb 100 times, your odds of dying are 97.443161%.

If you climb 200 times, your odds of dying are 99.9346257%.

If you climb 500 times, your odds of dying are 99.9999989%.
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Old 05-16-12, 01:52 AM
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Yeah but Mabuse is saying that the Sherpas do it all season long, not just for one group of climbers.
That isn't how it works. The climbing season isn't long enough. All the guided groups (as opposed to the professional climbers) start at roughly the same time and the summits happen from around mid to late May. They all share ropes and ladders with the other guided groups on that side of the mountain (there are two routes for the guided groups). Once they're done, that is it; there aren't more guided groups starting after that.

For example, Apa Sherpa, who holds the record for most Everest summits (21) has only ever summited twice in a year once, with the second coming much later in the year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apa_Sherpa
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If you have a 3.6% chance of dying on any climb, and each climb is independent of all others, then if the number of climbs that you make = C, then your odds of dying at some point during those C climbs = (1 - (0.964 ^ C)) * 100

So if you climb once, your odds of dying are 3.6%.

If you climb twice, your odds of dying are 7.0704%.

If you climb 3 times, your odds of dying are 10.4158656%.

If you climb 4 times, your odds of dying are 13.6408944%.

If you climb 5 times, your odds of dying are 16.7498222%.

If you climb 10 times, your odds of dying are 30.694079%.

If you climb 20 times, your odds of dying are 51.9668932%.

If you climb 50 times, your odds of dying are 84.009881%.

If you climb 100 times, your odds of dying are 97.443161%.

If you climb 200 times, your odds of dying are 99.9346257%.

If you climb 500 times, your odds of dying are 99.9999989%.
For that to hold true you would need to get amnesia after ever climb so that you never improve at your leisure activity.
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Old 05-16-12, 10:33 AM
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http://www.everestnews.com/ has up-to-date news and dispatches from this year's climbers.
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Because it's there.
I have a friend who's always been into "extreme" activities. The one thing he'd not been able to do was go skydiving. He decided to make it happen when he turned 40. This guy was married and had three kids at the time.

To make a long story short, the guy is fine but the day of the jump his main chute didn't open and his secondary chute wouldn't open either. By the time he got the second chute to open he had completely shit himself.

Hilarious!
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Who is down to setup and finance the first dvdtalk expedition?
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Who is down to setup and finance the first dvdtalk expedition?
I will bankroll it if we can guarantee Jules Whitfield and Buttmunker die at the summit.
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