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Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

Scientists working on $330,000 test-tube-meat burger

By Tiffany Hsu

February 20, 2012, 10:06 a.m.

Would you eat mystery meat grown in a lab if doing so was better for the environment? The debate may seem abstract, but scientists could turn a test-tube burger into reality by October.

The $330,000 project being conducted by Mark Post, chairman of physiology at Maastricht University in the Netherlands, involves a cow’s stem cells and funds from an anonymous private investor.

Post has already created several small strips of muscle tissue that, once he makes thousands more, will be mashed together to create a burger patty. The first sandwich could be ready this fall, he said during a presentation at the annual meeting of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science in Vancouver, Canada.


Though companies such as Tyson Foods and JBS have asked about possible meat substitutes, much of the $74-billion beef industry is still in wait-and-see mode, according to the science group.

But coming up with alternatives is a pressing concern, according to researchers who claim that conventional livestock production is devastating to the environment and dangerous for human health.

"Animal farming is by far the biggest ongoing environmental catastrophe," said Patrick Brown, a biochemist at Stanford University School of Medicine. Brown is working on a separate project aimed at creating meat substitutes -- and eventually dairy and other products -- using plant materials.

Supermarket shelves have seen growing a growing number of mock meats -- known as meat analogues -- as the ranks of vegetarians and vegans grow. Manufacturers often use tofu, tempeh and other soy products as a base. PETA is offering a $1-million prize to the first producer who manages to sell in-vitro chicken meat in 10 states by the end of June.

Demand for meat worldwide will boom 60% by 2050, according to Nicholas Genovese, who organized the Vancouver conference. Factory farms take up massive swaths of land and suck up enormous energy reserves while crowding together animals who, in those closely confined quarters, could spawn outbreaks of E.coli and other food-borne illnesses, he said.

Building meat using science, Post said, would require 40% less energy than the usual meat production cycle
. But that hasn't gotten Michelin-starred chef Heston Blumenthal on board -- contrary to published reports, a spokeswoman said Blumenthal has no plans to cook Post's patty once it's ready.

A strip of muscle tissue produced in a test tube in a Maastricht University lab.
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Sounds like a good plan for animals and for the environment (and, by extension, human survival). I'm sure with time this will be indistinguishable from a "real" burger.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

It all depends on whether or not it has all sorts of weird things in it, like real cow does.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

It might be the best burger in the world but for $330,000 I'll never know.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

This makes me want to re-watch Better Off Ted.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

Hmmm. Night of the Living Dead, I Am Legend, or Children of Men. One of these is bound to come true. Just give it some time.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

Originally Posted by troystiffler View Post
Hmmm. Night of the Living Dead, I Am Legend, or Children of Men. One of these is bound to come true. Just give it some time.
Or maybe Soylent Green?






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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

Hmmm, would this be alright for a vegetarian or vegan diet?
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Originally Posted by starman9000 View Post
This makes me want to re-watch Better Off Ted.
We have a winner!
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

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Hmmm, would this be alright for a vegetarian or vegan diet?
Good question. Not sure if cow stem cells would be considered meat. It comes from a cow....so maybe?
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

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Hmmm, would this be alright for a vegetarian or vegan diet?
Depends why they're a vegetarian/vegan.

- Religious reasons - This is probably still not okay.

- Environmental reasons - How much energy does this cost to create? I suspect probably a lot. Not as much as real meat, but it might still be more than producing a veggie burger. The energy cost of this burger will determine its rightness.

- Cruelty reasons - This is probably fine since no animals were harmed in its production. But how do they get the cow stem cells? This might change things.

- Health reasons - If this is nutritionally identical to real meat, it's a no-go.

- Meat is icky and tastes gross reasons - Depending on how much like meat this tastes, it might not be okay still.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

There's no satisfaction in eating meat if nothing had to die.
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There's no satisfaction in eating meat if nothing had to die.
I'm sure there are farm workers who died harvesting vegetables. Maybe you'll enjoy your next salad just a little bit more!
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

If PETA protests it, I'm in.
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Originally Posted by Bronkster View Post
If PETA protests it, I'm in.
PETA is offering a $1-million prize to the first producer who manages to sell in-vitro chicken meat in 10 states by the end of June.
I guess you are out?
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If PETA protests it, I'm in.
PETA is offering a $1-million prize to the first producer who manages to sell in-vitro chicken meat in 10 states by the end of June.
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I guess you are out?
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

There's not enough ketchup in the world...
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

I think we should make Louise Brown try it first.
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There's not enough ketchup in the world...
I couldn't imagine what something like this would taste like. It would probably be like the scene in The Fly where Geena Davis eats the first steak that has been transported.
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

I can't in good conscience put all those cows out of work.
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I think we should make Louise Brown try it first.
Ha!
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Re: Test-tube meat burger to debut in October. Who's game?

so very happy I'm a vegetarian...omg *puke*
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so very happy I'm a vegetarian...omg *puke*
Honestly, this doesn't seem much more gross to me than the existing fake meat products.
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You know what the gourmet here wanted? Hot dogs! You know what those are made of don't you Chet? Lips and assholes!

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