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dvdjunkie32 11-02-11 09:58 AM

Apartment Pet Policy - Do I Have Grounds to Complain?
 
Yesterday really pushed my buttons with my apartment's shitty pet policy. Plain and simple, no pets allowed. Not even a hamster. I would love to have a dog myself, but at least I don't have to deal with the hassle of other people's pets.


WRONG. I went walking after work around the complex. I started approaching one building that had a small terrier dog leashed to the stairwell. The dog kept barking loud at me going nuts, but fuck it, I'm not changing my route for this dog. I walk by the building fully on the sidewalk and the little fucker comes right at me and bites me on the ankle! I walk on down and see a girl walking a big collie, and another dude walking a dog.

Plenty of people get to enjoy pets here, but I can't? Total BS. I asked the manager about this a long time ago, and she explained that these people had their pets before the no pet policy. My gf told me there is something called a grandfather clause which allows them to keep the pet, but not replace it. I still call it BS. It really makes the no pet policy pointless.

Still ,it's been years since I asked about this, and i'm seeing more people around with dogs. So I can't have a dog, but have to deal with getting harrassed and bit by others? I'm ready to raise hell over this.

Crocker Jarmen 11-02-11 10:06 AM

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I sympathize. Where I used to live there were almost no apartments that allowed pets. I moved there with a cat I'd had for seven years and wasn't going to get rid of, and it took me 6 fucking months to find an apartment near where I worked that allowed pets. And ofcourse, it wasn't that nice of a place.

Most people don't want to rent to people with animals, and I underdstand why. Animals cause damage. It isn't a reflection of how responsible an owner you are, over time, animals are going to leave their mark.

Maybe if the landlord loves you and you're a great tenant you might recieve special dispensation but I wouldn't count on it. They have that rule for a reason. Most landlords have some horror story about some asshole they rented to with dog/cat/rat who let something terrible happen.

Unfortunately, if you want a pet, buy a house.

CRM114 11-02-11 10:14 AM

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No. It seems pretty clear that the policy was set and people were grandfathered in. You seriously never heard the term "grandfathered?"

Mikael79 11-02-11 10:14 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

Read up on it. An apartment complex can decide not to have pets, and that's fine. The residents who have been renting there before the policy were allowed to keep their pets, rather than being forced out.

I love animals - I have three dogs - which is why I bought a house.

Doug Heffernan 11-02-11 10:38 AM

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Seems perfectly normal and fair. Have you never heard of a 'grandfather clause' before? Not sure if that's what you are saying in your post.

If the owners of the complex decided that they no longer wanted to have pets there, that's their decision. So they can't really tell current residents to get rid of pets or leave (not even sure if they legally could do this) - they say from this point forward, no pets. So, eventually, as the people with pets move out, no new pets can be accepted.

If you knew the policy before you moved in, then that's your problem, not thiers.

mmconhea 11-02-11 10:43 AM

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bites you on the ankle?
That would be it for me. Call the police, have a report filed. Let them decide what to do.
A pet owner who allows (or doesn't prevent) their animal form touching another human being in a friendly or aggressive manner should have their pets privileged removed. Unfortunately this usually results int he dog being put down, but any responsible pet owner should know their dog's life is the responsibility of their own.

Pizza 11-02-11 10:55 AM

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I'd sue the apartment complex...over the bite on the ankle. That'll teach em.
How long have you been at this place? Are you seeing animals that you'd swear weren't there before? It's pretty hard to find an apartment that allows animals. Maybe you should look for a condo/house that someone is leasing out.

CRM114 11-02-11 10:56 AM

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Oh please. The police would laugh at you if you called to complain a Yorkshire Terrier bit you on the ankle. Was there even broken skin?

NORML54601 11-02-11 11:20 AM

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Since no one else has asked, have you seriously never heard of a grandfather clause?

kvrdave 11-02-11 11:28 AM

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Well, first I would have taken out my leatherman and stabbed the dog in the neck repeatedly. After that....nothing else matters.

Mikael79 11-02-11 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 10988897)
Oh please. The police would laugh at you if you called to complain a Yorkshire Terrier bit you on the ankle. Was there even broken skin?

Broken skin? I think the better question would be: "Did the doctors have to remove your foot, due to all of the damage to your ankle?"

Kmical 11-02-11 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 10988935)
Well, first I would have taken out my leatherman and stabbed the dog in the neck repeatedly. After that....nothing else matters.

Wouldn't this be your normal response to a barking dog - even if he hadn't bitten you?

arminius 11-02-11 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmical (Post 10989014)
Wouldn't this be your normal response to a barking dog - even if he hadn't bitten you?

Or even if it it wasn't barking.

Troy Stiffler 11-02-11 12:25 PM

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In my experience, a lot of people secretly own pets in apartments. If anyone asks, they're just dogsitting for a family member.

Kmical 11-02-11 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmical (Post 10989014)
Wouldn't this be your normal response to a barking dog - even if he hadn't bitten you?


Originally Posted by arminius (Post 10989035)
Or even if it it wasn't barking.

Well, barking gives him an excuse.

I just can't picture Dave at the park, sneaking from tree to tree, then jumping out and stabbing every dog to death with a knife just for the fun of it.

Ok - maybe I can ;)

Burnt Thru 11-02-11 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 10989036)
In my experience, a lot of people secretly own pets in apartments. If anyone asks, they're just dogsitting for a family member.

Yep, had a tenant who must have been keeping some kind of guinea pigs against our policy. We had a new estate agent running the contract under a management deal and assumed they were keeping up with their monthly checks on the place. When we went to have a look for ourselves after 6 months the place was trashed in at least 2 rooms - had to replace the carpets. We were pretty pissed to say the least..

The Cow 11-02-11 12:42 PM

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Have some kids, wait a few years for them to have kids. Then utilize the grandfather clause.

clckworang 11-02-11 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 10989036)
In my experience, a lot of people secretly own pets in apartments. If anyone asks, they're just dogsitting for a family member.

I was thinking this as well. There might very well be some new pets around the complex, but that doesn't mean management knows about it. When I got my dog, I still had a month or so in my apartment before the house I was moving to would be ready. I know the pet wasn't allowed, but I kept it there anyway. I was lucky he didn't do any damage.

Th0r S1mpson 11-02-11 01:07 PM

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Move out.

Or don't.

I know you feel like you shouldn't have to move out. And you don't. But you've been living there, for years, with dogs around. And now it's just too much?

Sounds like the ankle nip was more than you can handle. You have grounds to complain about that particular incident.

dvdjunkie32 11-02-11 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NORML54601 (Post 10988926)
Since no one else has asked, have you seriously never heard of a grandfather clause?

Naw I havent. I still think it's BS. If these pet owners renew their lease, they are agreeing to the new rules which state no pets. Why can't I do that when they hike up my rent? Sorry, but I was here during the old rules so they still apply to me.

Strikes me as odd that after 3 years, I'm seeing new dogs in the area. I should be seeing less dogs, not more. I really wanted to kick the shit out of that mutt for attacking me.

kvrdave 11-02-11 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 10989036)
In my experience, a lot of people secretly own pets in apartments. If anyone asks, they're just dogsitting for a family member.

Yes. And this is why I allow pets. Because people suck and are dishonest, especially when it comes to dogs. So rather than be truthful, they become lying pieces of shit so that they can have an animal that shits on the carpet and ruins the place. So if they are going to just lie anyway, I just allow them to have them so that this won't be the one lie that lets them burn in hell forever, which is what they deserve.

"Oh, but not my dog, he's well behaved. He doesn't bark. We take him to church with us. Blah, blah, blah. We just suck as human beings, and expect that breaking the contract is part of human nature. And bail us out of our mortgage because we were taken advantage of. We're the victims here. Our pets are like children....that we let shit all over the yard."

Fuck them.

kvrdave 11-02-11 01:14 PM

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superdeluxe 11-02-11 01:20 PM

Re: Apartment Pet Policy - Do I Have Grounds to Complain?
 

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32 (Post 10988824)
Yesterday really pushed my buttons with my apartment's shitty pet policy. Plain and simple, no pets allowed. Not even a hamster. I would love to have a dog myself, but at least I don't have to deal with the hassle of other people's pets.


WRONG. I went walking after work around the complex. I started approaching one building that had a small terrier dog leashed to the stairwell. The dog kept barking loud at me going nuts, but fuck it, I'm not changing my route for this dog. I walk by the building fully on the sidewalk and the little fucker comes right at me and bites me on the ankle! I walk on down and see a girl walking a big collie, and another dude walking a dog.

Plenty of people get to enjoy pets here, but I can't? Total BS. I asked the manager about this a long time ago, and she explained that these people had their pets before the no pet policy. My gf told me there is something called a grandfather clause which allows them to keep the pet, but not replace it. I still call it BS. It really makes the no pet policy pointless.

Still ,it's been years since I asked about this, and i'm seeing more people around with dogs. So I can't have a dog, but have to deal with getting harrassed and bit by others? I'm ready to raise hell over this.


Are you the one that lives in the apartment complex where people stick their chairs in front of your window and smoke?

Schloob1 11-02-11 01:35 PM

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Seriously man, if anything the owner of the dog while they should possibly not have had their dog tied where they did should have come after you for antagonizing their dog. You were clearly at fault in the situation where you got bit. If you had avoided the dog like you should have, and he somehow got loose and then came after you then a totally different story. Shame on you :thmbsdwn: And also so brush up on your history, not knowing what a "grandfather" clause, tsk tsk.

A personal story in realtion to this was rather funny when my wife and I were first together looking for an apartment. We went to the office and started answering/asking questions. We asked about pets, and they asked what we had and we mentioned 2 cats. they said their policy was they would only allow one and asked "Could you give 1 of your cats away/to someone else". Needless to say we took that one off the list and walked out of their in a hurry. Could not believe it as she said it with a straight face. I imagine for a fact there were people there with more, but our luck at least on more than 1 occasion our cats at the time would always be in a window together :)

glassdragon 11-02-11 02:03 PM

Re: Apartment Pet Policy - Do I Have Grounds to Complain?
 

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32 (Post 10989119)
Naw I havent. I still think it's BS. If these pet owners renew their lease, they are agreeing to the new rules which state no pets. Why can't I do that when they hike up my rent? Sorry, but I was here during the old rules so they still apply to me.

Strikes me as odd that after 3 years, I'm seeing new dogs in the area. I should be seeing less dogs, not more. I really wanted to kick the shit out of that mutt for attacking me.

Yeah, you definitely need an animal stat. I'm sure you wouldn't want to kick the shit out of them if they were just being an animal.


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