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Muammar Gaddafi dead

His sense of fashion will live on...

(But thank god his reign is over of course)
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He doesn't look good in red

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Re: Muammar Gaddafi dead

Ironically, the terminally ill, soon to die Lockerbie bomber has outlived him.
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Re: Muammar Gaddafi dead

Originally Posted by rexinnih View Post
Ironically, the terminally ill, soon to die Lockerbie bomber has outlived him.
Lead poisoning: 1 - Cancer: 0
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So Obama succeeded where Reagan failed?
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So Obama succeeded where Reagan failed?
No matter how we disagree on domestic policy, Obama is really "taking out the trash" lately. Kudos.
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I don't see how Obama gets any credit for this. It was Libyan rebels and a NATO airstrike that finished him off. Obama is not in charge of NATO. He explicitly washed his hands of this Gaddafi mess months ago. Glad to see him go though.
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I could have done without the gruesome video on the TV screens at the gym, though. Completely distracted me from my cardio workout.
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I could have done without the gruesome video on the TV screens at the gym, though. Completely distracted me from my cardio workout.
You should have turned around and pretended you were running from zombie Quadaffi.
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Re: Muammar Gaddafi dead

Next up:

Gadhafi
el-Qaddafi
Khadafy
Qaddafi
Kadhafi
Quadaffi
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Originally Posted by rexinnih View Post
Ironically, the terminally ill, soon to die Lockerbie bomber has outlived him.
Yeah, cancer Good one. That guy will probably outlive us all.
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Which would be fair since he most likely had nothing to do with that bombing.
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Yeah... it had to be those dirty Jews behind the bombing, right?

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Your need to work on your mind-reading skills...
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Muammar? Are you working on your evil laugh?
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Re: Muammar Gaddafi dead

Originally Posted by eXcentris View Post
Which would be fair since he most likely had nothing to do with that bombing.
The people in Lybia believe he did it and they treat him like a hero because of it. What does that tell you about Lybians?
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Originally Posted by eXcentris View Post
Next up:

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Khadafy
Qaddafi
Kadhafi
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Queen Latifah
Wow
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The people in Lybia believe he did it and they treat him like a hero because of it. What does that tell you about Lybians?
Well, they put up with Michael Jackson as their leader for 40 years...
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
The people in Lybia believe he did it and they treat him like a hero because of it. What does that tell you about Lybians?
You spelled it wrong. It's Labia.
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The people in Lybia believe he did it and they treat him like a hero because of it. What does that tell you about Lybians?
People in America believe that Iran is behind a plot to bomb the Israel Embassy in Washington and murder the Saudi ambassador. Said plot allegedly involving an Iranian-American whiskey drinking used-car salesman and a Mexican drug cartel. What does that tell you about Americans
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I don't see how Obama gets any credit for this. It was Libyan rebels and a NATO airstrike that finished him off. Obama is not in charge of NATO. He explicitly washed his hands of this Gaddafi mess months ago. Glad to see him go though.

Who gave the rebels guns and ammo? Not Santa
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Who told you about S.A.N.T.A.?
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Originally Posted by eXcentris View Post
People in America believe that Iran is behind a plot to bomb the Israel Embassy in Washington and murder the Saudi ambassador. Said plot allegedly involving an Iranian-American whiskey drinking used-car salesman and a Mexican drug cartel. What does that tell you about Americans
Which people? I need to know, so I can tell them they're wrong. It's the Albanians.
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Who gave the rebels guns and ammo? Not Santa
The Chinese?
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I know we don't want to turn this into political talk but for those that think Obama deserves no credit for this, here's a Fox News editorial that shows what blowhards on the right had to say about it two months ago.

Opinion
Libya, Syria Show Obama in Way Over His Head

By J.D. Gordon

Published August 20, 2011

| FoxNews.com



Developments this week with Libya and Syria show that President Barack Obama is in way over his head on U.S. foreign policy – once again.

In Libya, rebel fighters are closing in on Col. Moammar Qaddafi’s stronghold of Tripoli - though remain locked in a six-month civil war and face a potential bloodbath in taking the city. This is despite Mr. Obama’s headlong rush to lead “kinetic military action” in March to back them up, an effort expected by some optimists in Washington to last weeks. NATO, with U.S. forces at the core, is still at it.

With Syria, Mr. Obama finally called for strongman President Bashar Al-Assad to step down – only now that 2,000 pro-democracy demonstrators have been killed in military assaults with tanks, infantry and naval bombardment. Though certainly the right decision, unfortunately it’s about five months overdue, and too late for those who have already lost their lives.

It’s almost as if Mr. Obama has been operating in fast-forward to support democracy and protect lives in Libya, while going slow motion in Syria.

Why is that?

First, when it comes to entrenched regimes like Qaddafi’s and Al-Assad’s, dictators know that the law of the jungle applies. Weak states like Libya are more vulnerable to foreign military intervention and internal unrest - strong states like Iranian-backed Syria are more secure. Despite Mr. Obama’s lofty statements defying dictators and promoting human rights, he only really tried to deliver in lower-risk environments. Egypt and Tunisia come to mind.

Second, rather than leading from the front as American presidents have traditionally done – save Jimmy Carter, Mr. Obama takes his cues from international organizations like the UN and Arab League. Once they pressed for military action in Libya, it was Tomahawks away – with the U.S. leading the charge.

Third, despite his popularity overseas, Mr. Obama arguably still doesn’t have the experience of a seasoned chief executive to deal with thorny issues like the Arab Spring. This shouldn’t be a surprise, considering his four years in the Senate were known for voting “present.”

Though admittedly it’s easier to criticize the government than to be responsible for producing successful results – my five years at the Pentagon taught me that hard truth, here are some tangible steps that the Obama Administration could have done better, and should do next on Libya and Syria:

On Libya, instead of committing U.S. forces to a third war while we’re already stretched thin in Iraq and Afghanistan, he should have insisted those shouting the loudest for military action – France, the U.K. and Arab League, do the heavy lifting. The U.S. fired roughly 98% of the Tomahawk missiles, deployed the most ships and aircraft, dropped the majority of precision-guided munitions, and thus got stuck with the highest bill.

And since Qaddafi struck us twice in the 1980s with terrorism in retaliation for military confrontations, we’re now squarely in the cross hairs for a reprisal. Thus we ought to be doing more to push him out now that we have attacked him again - each day he remains in power represents a threat to Americans. We should do more to shape a U.S.-friendly, Al-Qaeda-free rebel movement – while we still have the chance.

On Syria, instead of waiting for the protester death count to reach 2,000, Mr. Obama should have called for Al-Assad to step down long ago. And instead of merely slapping economic sanctions on just 7 Syrian leaders in May, he should have expanded them to include Syria’s oil, banking, and communications industries – a move he has just now undertaken.

Next, he should recall U.S. Ambassador Robert Ford from Damascus - failure to do so adds legitimacy to the regime. He should start supporting the Syrian opposition without delay. After all, Bashar Al-Assad and his father Hafez before him were not shy about supporting those fighting U.S. forces over these past decades.

Syria was the main conduit for pan-Arab fighters pouring into Iraq to wage jihad against our troops. They’ve also armed and trained Hezbollah and Hamas - terrorist organizations bent on forcing our withdrawal from the Middle East and Israel’s destruction. Hezbollah was behind the 1983 bombing of the Marine Barracks in Beirut, killing 241 servicemen.

Short of “military kinetic action,” there’s a lot Mr. Obama could and should be doing on Syria – but appears unable to get the job done.

Though his speeches may sound great, he hasn’t been effective in delivering positive outcomes for America in complex world events like we’ve seen in Libya and Syria.

Such a flawed foreign policy strategy – one that in essence rewards strong dictators and punishes weak ones, regardless of the direct threat to us – harms our reputation as a world leader and encourages rogue regimes to build up their own military arsenals.

J.D. Gordon is a communications consultant to several Washington-D.C. think tanks and a retired Navy Commander who served as a Pentagon spokesman in the Office of the Secretary of Defense from 2005-2009. For more info: www.jdgordoncommunications.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...#ixzz1bNLfi53c

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